Clean ID3v1 and V2 tags not working - bug?

[flatterbe]

Hi

I just bought MediaMonkey 4.1.2.1706.
Because my music folder is quite messy, I wanted to clear all tags and start from scratch.

So I select my tracks, goto Tools > Advanced Tag Management > Clean ID3v1 and V2 tags.
The progress bar starts running but afterwards all tags (album/genre/rating/...) are still visible. Even after I synchronise tags...

What am I doing wrong or is this a bug?

Regards

[MMFrLife]

I've never had a need to use it myself, but I decided to test it out on a couple of tunes and I'm not getting anything noticeable either.
I could just be missing something though, like it cleans them but not in a way I'm expecting (it says something about "doesn't change library properties").

I followed the instructions to the T http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.p ... _Your_Tags

I performed it under both Library and My Computer.

MM 4.1.3.1707

Anyway, someone 'll be around to inform.

[imvery@live]

Thank you for testing.
Seems like something is not working with this functionality

[MMFrLife]

Thank you for thanking me
Anxious to see what up wit dat? I'm sure it's something simple.

[Lowlander]

What file type(s) are you performing this on and with which version of MediaMonkey?

Note that the feature to clean ID3v1 and V2 tags won't remove database values, it is supposed to only remove all tags from the file itself (not sure if this is only for formats with ID3 tags like MP3). The idea behind this feature is that you can remove all tags (and any corruptions) to then save them again (with Synchronize Tags).

If you want to start again just select all files in the Library (or the ones you want to do this on), right click > Properties and then clear all applicable fields (multiple value fields will show without value, just check their checkbox) and click OK. I don't recommend to do this though. Note that this action may not clear the tags in the files (MediaMonkey used to not wipe fields to be on the safe side, not sure if this has changed).

[imvery@live]

I use the latest version: MediaMonkey 4.1.2.1706 with ordinary MP3-files.

I know that 'Clean ID3v1 and V2 tags...' doesn't remove the tags from the database before a 'synchronise tags...' is done.
But even when I 'cleaned' all mp3's and do a 'Synchronize Tags...', ALL tags are still visible.

However like you said, I can select some files and edit their properties (or in this case, wipe all the tags) but what's the use of 'Clean ID3v1 and V2 tags...' when I have to do it manually through the properties of files?

Seems like a bug to me.
Tried this with MP3's with ID3v1, ID3v2, ID3v2.3, ID3v2.4.
'Clean ID3v1 and V2 tags...' doesn't clean anything...

[Lowlander]

I know that 'Clean ID3v1 and V2 tags...' doesn't remove the tags from the database before a 'synchronise tags...' is done.
But even when I 'cleaned' all mp3's and do a 'Synchronize Tags...', ALL tags are still visible.

All tags shown in MediaMonkey will remain visible and this is expected. MediaMonkey only wipes the tags in the files. Synchronize Tags will rewrite database values to the tags. Neither feature will remove tags from the Library.

I just tried Clean ID3v1 & v2 on a couple MP3's and as expected the tags were wiped from the files themselves (checked with MediaInfo and Windows Explorer). So it seems to work as it should on MediaMonkey 4.1.2

[imvery@live]

I see.
Just tested this and you're right.

The tags are wiped indeed, but how can I view the changes in the Library?
Quite odd that the library view shows tags that are different from the mp3's.

Why doesn't the library show the updated tags?
Seems logic that the library view should reflect what the real tags are. Not the old (wiped) values.

Don't get it...

[MMFrLife]

Yes, I see it too!

I guess one purpose would be, if something happened to your files (or a file) and you had to rerip/replace them you could easily get back all/any previous unique/custom info by syncronizing tags.....? .....or just before you migrate files over to a new drive or system to make sure no data gets messed up/lost in the transfer.

The tags are wiped indeed, but how can I view the changes in the Library?

If you just want to clear file tags "and" the mirrored library info, don't use "clean.....tags". You could bring up the files (Entire Library) > select all > and wipe all or any
unwanted fields or create a collection(s) for certain files/lib. info you want to work with to wipe/clean.

[nohitter151]

I see.
Just tested this and you're right.

The tags are wiped indeed, but how can I view the changes in the Library?
Quite odd that the library view shows tags that are different from the mp3's.

Why doesn't the library show the updated tags?
Seems logic that the library view should reflect what the real tags are. Not the old (wiped) values.

Don't get it...

Library values are always shown, not tags. If you want to clear your tracks of all tags just Edit > Select all, right click -> Properties, and blank out all fields (and put a check mark in each box next to the fields).

[Lowlander]

MediaMonkey always shows Library values over tag values. The purpose of this tool is to wipe the tags in case of some corruption and to then use Synchronize Tags to rewrite them. Few people will wipe their tags to actually wipe their tags as it's hard to figure out which song is which without tags (Tools > Auto-Tag from Filename can be used if folder/filenames are useful).