Complaints about MM Gold.

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Glenn62
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Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Glenn62 »

I have been using Media Monkey for what seems like 10 years. It has some irritating tendencies. Let me preface that i keep my entire library in one single folder, all fat MP3s and nothing weird. I rip or DL from Bandcamp or Amazon 99.9% of the time. My system is a raging unlocked I-9 Digital Storm build with SS raid primary, IK AXE I/O for sound. I always use the Find More From the Same Folder feature, which is really great. BUT, i get
-SOME albums do not ever want to be added properly.
-I get GRAYED OUT missing songs that are IN THE FOLDER!
-I have Classical Music Composers as Album Artist by last name and players as Artists, All other music have Band or Artist as Album Artist and Artist and Comps as Various Album Artist and Individuals as Artist. I started doing this when IPOD loaded backwards. IPOd is long gone but I want MM to OPEN IN ALBUM ARTIST and COLLATED THAT WAY ALPHABETICALLY every time but always get some random nonsense...not artist or album...
-Sometimes, i put new music in the Music Folder and MM does not find it, AT ALL...as if the monitor doesn't work sometimes.
-Sometimes the art is impossible to add or takes two attempts,
-At some point, SEARCH for ART stopped working about 1/4 of the time, albums that are current on Amazon and the database. Search for Art seems to have collapsed.
-When looking at Recently Added playlist, why does the code not keep the album files together!? Instead they are strewn as if added all day long.
-I can't add ADDED collation to ALBUM VIEW. I don't like Alpha grouping in Album Artist so i just use RATING with unknown to continuously alphabetize all albums.
-I must commend to some degree. I have something like 500 gig of Classical and Other music, Death Metal, Dream Pop, Jazz...etc. and this library has utterly DESTROYED WMP and Itunes.
So, that is my rant. The search function here isn't very useful. I mean, i know i'm not the only one with GRAYED OUT MISSING FILES but it shows nothing.
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Lowlander »

What Build (Help > About) are you using>?

1) Please see: https://www.mediamonkey.com/support/kno ... y-library/
2) Greyed out: https://www.mediamonkey.com/support/kno ... s-to-play/
3) Please provide more details, it likely is a tagging issue.
4) Is Folder Monitoring set to startup, continuous or both? Also see 1.
5) Please detail how you're trying to add Artwork.
6) Make sure you're up-to-date: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... =8811&sd=d
7) They're in the order they were added. Did manual scanning or Folder Monitoring add the files?
Glenn62
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Glenn62 »

Lowlander wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:21 pm What Build (Help > About) are you using>?

1) Please see: https://www.mediamonkey.com/support/kno ... y-library/
2) Greyed out: https://www.mediamonkey.com/support/kno ... s-to-play/
3) Please provide more details, it likely is a tagging issue.
4) Is Folder Monitoring set to startup, continuous or both? Also see 1.
5) Please detail how you're trying to add Artwork.
6) Make sure you're up-to-date: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... =8811&sd=d
7) They're in the order they were added. Did manual scanning or Folder Monitoring add the files?
I always use the latest update MMGold. I always scan Continuously. The files, as i have said, ARE in the usual folder, is pulled up by FIND MORE...can be played, work perfectly but ARE ALWAYS GRAYED OUT IN PLAYLIST as if they don't exist. There is NO problem on my end using the app. Pointing me to other discussions that go over the same faults on my end isn't helpful. Not only are albums not kept together in Recently Added playlist...which is irritating, ARTIST does not collate Artist alphabetically perfectly. As far as ADDING... i do it like everyone else does it. I RIP the CD with MM or i put the MP3s in the folder! Like NORMAL...everyday HEY this should work properly every time...every time i bring up glitches...i get the same response...are you doing this, are you doing that...are you beaming songs from Uranus into the APP!???

Searching for Artwork manually in EDIT ARTWORK doesn't do anything...it used to and there are no OPTIONS to fix it. What am i supposed to do. It just doesn't find more than half of my newer library, since maybe an update two years ago...Surely others have asked about this!?!?!

As far as grayed out...MM seems to pick a certain recording and DO THIS OVER and OVER...once it was an ALBAN BERG recording...it would duplicate half of it, gray it out in playlist...always the same thing. There is some weird bugs going on. Also, there is way to add a single recording...it just scans again and fails to find some things in the folder. I don't get it.

Sometimes MM doesn't even ID the CD. Recently i bought 5 used Pat Metheny recordings...it found ONE, these aren't pre-hiero-glyphs, they are relatively recent recording on commercial cd and MM has UNKNOWN everywhere! WHAT HAPPENED to the APP? What update screwed this up? When i have the DATA, i have it added to TAGS and to file.
Also...duplicates all the time...Recently added shows individual songs that played fine, were in the folder...disappeared and added again! What is that!?
And finally, why can i not have it open collated in Album Artist every time!?
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

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For Artwork, make sure you up-to-date: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... =8811&sd=d
Glenn62
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

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Lowlander wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:42 pm For Artwork, make sure you up-to-date: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... =8811&sd=d
Okay. It's the latest build/update...why do you keep telling me this?

Artwork doesn't work properly. Clicking songs to the playlist adds the whole library, COMPLETELY wasting my time! MP3s that are perfect aren't found in the correct folder. Some albums are never found but play just fine if added to playlist. Others are grayed out like they don't exist. Artist doesn't collate properly. Some CDs are unknown...many of them. THESE ARE BUGS. it isn't my system, an old build, something i am doing wrong, lousy files, the wrong folder...ALIENS, Ghosts, Russian Hackers...they are bugs. And this forum has been pretty much useless to fix them. You act like i am the one person out of a million with Gremlins in my Digital Storm I9 build!
Lowlander
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Lowlander »

In Playback settings you can control what is added to the Playing when you double click a file to play.
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by yarguy »

You can thank (or better swear at) the inventors of the ID tagging system for the composer-as-artist-problem because they origjnally left no field for composer. As a consequence early taggers of classical albums put composer in the artist field - assuming most people were more interested in composer than in artist. It's an album database problem not a Media Monkey problem.
Glenn62
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

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Lowlander wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:35 pm In Playback settings you can control what is added to the Playing when you double click a file to play.
You see, this is what you get for help. I say sometimes while double clicking things into Play, it throws the entire group i'm working with into play, destroying all efforts to make a playing Playlist...as an old vet i FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PLAYBACK SETTINGS!
Not a problem understanding...it's a BUG that selects everything instead of the chosen song.
It's ENGLISH i am speaking...is there a fricking translation problem?~!
I have mentioned many of the BUGS in MM Gold and all i ever get is UPDATE...You can change **** in settings...worthless!
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Lowlander »

In that case capture this in a debug log (step 4b) and attach the log to a Support Ticket: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86643

This will help a developer analyze why this happens in your setup.
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Rob_S »

Glenn62, I believe that this double-click action has been a feature of mediamonkey 4 and 5 for as long as I can recall - correct me if I am wrong on this:

Double-click a track in any listing in the main panel ie a search, or a playlist, and that complete listing replaces any existing now-playing list, and it starts playing the track you clicked on. What you describe appears to be working as designed.

If you only want to add the current track to the existing now-playing list, you need to use right-click, play now or play next.

I am not aware of any way to customize the function of the double-click.
Using V2024 LATEST alpha or beta build on Windows 11, HP laptop, managing 13k tracks
Lowlander
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

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Rob_S wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:22 pmDouble-click a track in any listing in the main panel ie a search, or a playlist, and that complete listing replaces any existing now-playing list, and it starts playing the track you clicked on.
No, as the link described, you can control what double click does and which files it adds. The Default ' Play now' action controls what is added on double click (set it to Play selected files only), and Default action controls what is executed on double click: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... k_Settings
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

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Excellent, learn something every day, well most days anyway...
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Glenn62
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

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Lowlander wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:15 pm
Rob_S wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:22 pmDouble-click a track in any listing in the main panel ie a search, or a playlist, and that complete listing replaces any existing now-playing list, and it starts playing the track you clicked on.
No, as the link described, you can control what double click does and which files it adds. The Default ' Play now' action controls what is added on double click (set it to Play selected files only), and Default action controls what is executed on double click: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... k_Settings
You continue to refuse to listen. It is set up to add a song to play on double click. i'm 45 songs into a playlist and a double click ADDS THE WHOLE LIBRARY, wasting my time completely.

Tonight, i bought 3 used CDs. One Brother Cane - Seeds...doesnt find it on 3 attempts. Then it finds it rips it and when playing it, THE 12th SONG IS GRAYED OUT...it is IN THE FOLDER, IT PLAYS WITH THE CD IN. Windows shows it to be an mp3 but adding the album to play...12 is GRAYED OUT as if it doesn't exist. With the CD in, i can play it, it says it is imported and it shows in the folder....grayed out. On top of that...MM decides it isn't registered as Gold and THAT has to be reregistered. I have had good use and loved the positive features, payed for the GOLD, but really, the bugs are MOUNTING! They are real. The forum is no help at all.
Just FIX your app! I don't know what you did to Media Monkey but it AINT ME and it AINT cause of an OLD BUILD or some shit.
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Rob_S »

Glenn62 - note I am just a user of MM, no connection to Ventis whatsoever

When you say
It is set up to add a song to play on double click.
which setting do you mean?

The only one close to that is "Clear list and play selected only" which works for me the way you appear to want. It clears the entire now playing list, and enters only the track I double-click on. Plays that, and stops.

However, the setting called "Clear list, and play selected and subsequent" DOES enter the entire currently viewed list, regardless of which track I double-click on.

I suppose if you have shuffle off, it would then play only from that point forward, but it still puts the entire list in the "Now playing"

To be technically correct it probably should read "Clear and replace list, and play as per settings (shuffle, not shuffle, etc) starting with this track"
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Re: Complaints about MM Gold.

Post by Barry4679 »

Hi Glenn,

I don't think that you have ever supplied your MM version number (Help>About menu item).
What is it?

Some of things that you say sound a lot like MM4 to me.
Are you running MM5? ... This is the MM5 section of the forum.
This may be why people are having trouble zeroing into your actual issues.
Glenn62 wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:53 pm -At some point, SEARCH for ART stopped working about 1/4 of the time, albums that are current on Amazon and the database. Search for Art seems to have collapsed.
-When looking at Recently Added playlist, why does the code not keep the album files together!? Instead they are strewn as if added all day long.
-I can't add ADDED collation to ALBUM VIEW. I don't like Alpha grouping in Album Artist so i just use RATING with unknown to continuously alphabetize all albums.
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