Rename from Tag & automaticaly avoid duplicates & long name

[alin_derom]

Hi,
I am looking for a new rename option (actually for 2) and haven't found it under support or the forum.

First : avoid duplicates. This can now be done by adding random numbers, or sequential numbers, but then ALL file names have those numbers although (most of the time) only a few of them really need it. What I am actually looking for can be described like this : "Rename the files according to the chosen renaming rules (eg <Title> - <Artist>) and ONLY if the resulting filename already exists in that same folder, make it unique by adding _1 (if this exists use _2 , if that exist _3, and so on). This feature could be eg <UNIQUE>. As long as there is no duplicate it will add nothing.
An option for forcing a certain number of numbers is can also be usefull (eg <UNIQUE:2> would give _01)
Bye the way i cannot use the tracknumber of the CD because my originals are vinyl records that I have digitalized.

Second : if the filename gets to long automatically shorten it to the maximum allowed lenght (and if this creates a duplicate then shorten it again from 2 digits and add _1)

[nohitter151]

You can already trim the filename using $Trim($Left(<Title> - <Artist>,150)) where 150 is the max number of characters you want the filename to be.

For your first issue, yes I miss this from MM as well (in the event of duplicate filenames, append the filename with a number). But you can pretty much avoid the whole issue of duplicates at all by using track numbers in the filename.

[alin_derom]

For the trimming I agree that this option is already available. But I was mentioning it for the <UNIQUE> parameter. Because then the trim had to be shorter (of course i could also trim 3 digits shorten and then there would be no problem) when an <UNIQUE> information was appended.

As for the <UNIQUE> paramter I only have found 1 freeware that does this (Bulk Rename Utility=BRU). But this program only uses ID3V1 tags, and only a few of them and gives problems when having long titles.
http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/foru ... ?f=4&t=985
That's the only "problem" that that i have encounterd in BRU, for the rest it is great. But if you plan to pay for the renaming you can use
http://www.skyjuicesoftware.com/softwar ... index.html this one uses ID3V2 tags

Maybe i should put my question in the "wish list". In the mean time I change titles with an additional . or - or other sign

[Lowlander]

You can add a random number in MediaMonkey, but can't set this for only tracks with duplicate filenames.

<Random> would be the the mask for a random number <Random:2> would give you 2 digits.

[Peke]

Along with lowlander suggestion You can add <Auto Number:4> That will instruct MM to add Sync Order number to Filename so <Auto Number:4><Random:2> will result as 123412.mp3

[alin_derom]

all fine for the 2 hints, but that's not really what I am looking for
What if i want to create the next file names in 1 move (we suppose the syntax is <Title><Unique:2> - <Artist>).
Of course the option <Unique:2> does not exist yet, but that's the result i want
Don't forget that I am starting from vinyl recordings, and so I don't have a track number to make the filenames unique. And even then i could have the version on track 1 of a single an dtrack 1 of an LP and on that 1 of a "best of" LP

intro - genesis
my good song - genesis
back home - genesis
back home_01 - genesis
back home_02 - genesis
to the moon - genesis
into the flow - genesis
last song - genesis
last song_01 - genesis

As you see most songs just have TITLE+ARTIST. But I have in the same folder some "duplicates" of those songs.
Starting from the second on they will be numbered. So "last song_01 - genesis" is actually the second prevalence of this title.
And the song "back home" is 3 times in this folder.
That is a result that cannot be done by the nice suggestions you both provided me.
With your suggestions <Auto Number:4><Random:2> I could produce :
intro000125 - genesis
my good song000201 - genesis
back home000378 - genesis
back home000422 - genesis
back home000503 - genesis
to the moon000614 - genesis
into the flow000712 - genesis
last song000869 - genesis
last song000955 - genesis

To be honest, don't you think my proposal looks nicer?

[nohitter151]

To be honest, don't you think my proposal looks nicer?

Sure, as I already said I wish MM would append numbers to tracks with duplicate filenames, or at least provide the option. But that type of request belongs in the wishlist forum, not "Need help".

[alin_derom]

I know, but the wish list rules expect you to start searching for help during 3-5 days, and only then put it on the wish-list. still 2 more days to go