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Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:48 am
by Timo_Beil
rusty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:53 am
3) Possible Bugs:
a)
Even if I disable all checkboxes in "Metadata lookup", MM sends data to somewhere on the web.
As indicated above, Peke is unable to replicate (assuming views containing 'Info panels/Related Artists' are disabled
b)
After deselecting all "Sources" for metadata lookup" MM secretly re-enables all three options.
I'm not seeing this with the latest beta build. If you are, can you elaborate?
Thanks in advance!
-Rusty
a) I can't replicate, that anyone in the world is drowning (assuming they walk around with a life jacket on at all times)
You really have to look at each individual (sub)node to see whether an infopanel is still activated there.
It takes a while until you have eliminated all info panels.
b) Sorry, this concerns the three sources in AutoTagging (here the internet access is deliberately initiated by the user).
So that this behavior can be classified as "strange" but useful.
Thanks for your suggestions. I will unblock MM in the firewall and start monitoring the traffic again.
EDIT:
MM connects to Google U.S. with UDP 142.250.185.131:80 immediately on startup.
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:17 am
by Barry4679
Timo_Beil wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:48 am
MM connects to Google U.S. with UDP 142.250.185.131:80 immediately on startup.
Is "Check for updates" checked in the General tab at Tools>Options?
maybe it is that?
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:00 am
by Timo_Beil
Maybe... I had allowed the Ventis IP 54.39.221.200 for updates, but after disabeling automatic updates google was only once contacted (216.58.206.35). Manually triggered update search doesn't contact google.
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 10:53 pm
by rusty
To summarize the current status: ,
https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17638 has been fixed i.e. users can now disable any traffic that is not obviously user-initiated.
#20489 remains open to track the feature request for a single setting to block traffic.
-Rusty
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 6:35 am
by CrashMonkey
I use a firewall and have some things blocked from MM, however that also creates "broadcast" storms, and MM is using a lot of cpu during that time, and the firewall is hit by 30+request per sec, then it goes quit again.
So if i have a network for example 192.168.1.0 as primary use, but also have connected networks like 192.168.2.0,192.168.3.0, and some 10.0.0.x -> 10.0.1.x etc etc. Then MM broadcast on all networks, what exctually is not needed, as i only use the primairy, and other networks go somewhere else that does not need MM broadcast.
So firewall is setup to allow MM to 192.168.1.0/24 all other internal networks are denied. (this gives load on clientpc and extra load on the firewall)
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 10:01 am
by Ludek
CrashMonkey wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 6:35 am
I use a firewall and have some things blocked from MM, however that also creates "broadcast" storms, and MM is using a lot of cpu during that time, and the firewall is hit by 30+request per sec, then it goes quit again.
So if i have a network for example 192.168.1.0 as primary use, but also have connected networks like 192.168.2.0,192.168.3.0, and some 10.0.0.x -> 10.0.1.x etc etc. Then MM broadcast on all networks, what exctually is not needed, as i only use the primairy, and other networks go somewhere else that does not need MM broadcast.
So firewall is setup to allow MM to 192.168.1.0/24 all other internal networks are denied. (this gives load on clientpc and extra load on the firewall)
Hi, I wonder what do you mean by the broadcast? Probably SSDP discovery for the UPnP/DLNA media server?
i.e. does it happen also if you disable Options > Media Sharing ?
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:39 am
by CrashMonkey
Will test this, and onces it happen, then i come back with more information.
Two others things.
Does MediaMonkey needs to connect to Admin port of Diskstations, as it tries that? port 5000 (or is it only used to detect devices?)
https://imgur.com/5RhWauH
Also MM does not use my pre-defined DNS settings. My dns settings are setup as secure(encrypted). However MM tries to use the insecure dns servers.
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 5:04 am
by Peke
CrashMonkey wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:39 am
Will test this, and onces it happen, then i come back with more information.
Two others things.
Does MediaMonkey needs to connect to Admin port of Diskstations, as it tries that? port 5000 (or is it only used to detect devices?)
https://imgur.com/5RhWauH
Also MM does not use my pre-defined DNS settings. My dns settings are setup as secure(encrypted). However MM tries to use the insecure dns servers.
Port 5000 along with port 1900 is not admin port it is used by UPnP to detect Media Servers and most likely your diskstation announced itself as media server and MM tries to access it in order to see what media it serves. You should check DiskStation traffic.
https://www.grc.com/port_5000.htm
As for DNS 1.1.1.1 Is privacy DNS server operated by CloudFlare
https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns ... s-1.1.1.1/
https://www.google.com/search?q=DNS+Ser ... 8&oe=utf-8
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 8:21 am
by CrashMonkey
For the port 5000 i will look at diskstation. (however i only use port 5000 tcp for administrating the nas)
My settings are used for Encrypted DNS, that is using port 443.
However MediaMonkey does not use the Encrypted dns but connecting to udp 53.
So not respecting the DNS settings supplied in windows 11.
Re: [REQ] Option to disable online accesses [#20489]
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:10 am
by Peke
Hi,
Is your DNS Service set to 1.1.1.1?
Here is my HOME Network Router WAN Settings
Beside that I have Mikrotik as Middle Firewall before ISP Router and tunneling to my other network parts that have own routers like IoTs, ...
It is possible that MM Chromium part Auto Switch DoH to use DNS over HTTPS: when asked to access internet especially if IPv6 is working correctly.
Have you tried WireShark to see packets what MM sends?