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How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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It may be a rare variant: My PC is connected to the internet via a smartphone hotspot from now on. The attempt to initiate a synchronization with MMW5 from the smartphone MMA fails. The server is not found. I tried it with barcode scan. No chance.

Is it possible at all like this?

When I add a new server with automatic IP this message appears in browser:

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192.168.176.190 has rejected the connection.
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Did you check if the device is allowed on the Clients tab in MediaMonkey?

With different software I've not been able to make a setup like that work.
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Thank you for your answer.
Yes I did. Maybe I have to sync via USB in future. With the new smartphone device USB sync is working fine, without freezing.

So, asking in another way:
Is it not possible to have hotspot on MM-client and MM-server on wifi-client?
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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@Lowlander At the moment it does not work. In the meantime I found out that the MM server doesn't use the no longer existing LAN connection IP as IP address: 192.168.176.190, but the now valid IP: 192.168.0.194
However, the MM server still doesn't appear on android.
Maybe this screenshot helps:

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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Hi,
"192.168.176.190" Usually means something is wrong with your connection as "192.168.176.0/23" is used internally withing Switch networks (commonly Cisco, symmetrix). There is possible issue with DHCP server, Router settings, ... as "192.168.176.xxx" often point to some Smart Virtual Relay Switch. Some VPN clients use that approach to isolate LAN IPs from rest of network in order to mask IP further.

Personally I would switch all off and power it one by one beginning with main ISP router, then if possible connect PC wired directly.

Usually normal DHCP ranges are 192.168.0.1-192.168.1.254/192.168.2.254(rarely)
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Thank you very much, @Peke, for your comment.
In this case, I no longer have a LAN connection. Instead, a USB WiFi adapter (TP-Link TL-WN722N), because the PC has no internal network card. The IP address is also probably from this adapter.
`ifconfig` Output:

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[code]rainer@rainer-OptiPlex:~$ ifconfig enp1s0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 ether 54:bf:64:94:ae:5d txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0

lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host> loop txqueuelen 1000 (Local loop) RX packets 6768 bytes 524394 (524.3 KB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 6768 bytes 524394 (524.3 KB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0

wlx14cc2013a10a: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 inet 192.168.97.190 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.97.255 inet6 fe80::ddae:1c29:83c1:8f90 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link> inet6 2a02:3030:40a:26df:9a39:b16b:5fa9:bd26 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global> ether 14:cc:20:13:a1:0a txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 385 bytes 137311 (137.3 KB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 491 bytes 72296 (72.2 KB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 
Should I change something here? If yes, how?
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Hi,
It is as I suspected that 192.168.97.190 is Unicast/Multicast IP because 192.168.97.255 is non existent IP and served to broadcast/announce itself to WLAN. May I suggest that you try to install latest driver for adapter https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/down ... wn722n/v4/ (Try other hardware versions drivers/apps even Sticker on Adapter shows different version) and see if you can set IP address manually.

HINT: To see what gateway you use and what IP to set use any other device connected to same WiFi and check connection properties. My guess is that it is 192.168.0.xxx or 192.168.1.xxx.
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Hi,
yes gateway is 192.168.0.xxx.
I'll by a new adapter now and will tell how that is doing.
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Hi,
What version of Windows you use?

I guess you only need to manually setup connection and all should work.

I also think that replacing TP-Link TL-WN722N with some 802.11ax models would be more than refreshing due the bandwidth limitation of TL-WN722N (eg. 802.11n and I guess max connection 74Mbit [<10MB/s] and usually much lower).
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Windows 10. I'm not sure what values I can use to configure this manually. In the network settings, "automatic (DHCP)" is set. What values are accepted when I set it to "manual"?
This is how it is now:

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SSID:	          Redmi Note 11S
Protokoll:  Wi-Fi 4 (802.11n)
Sicherheitstyp:	WPA2-Personal
Netzfrequenzbereich:	2,4 GHz
Netzwerkkanal:	1
Verbindungsgeschwindigkeit (Empfang/Übertragung):	65/65 (Mbps)
IPv6-Adresse:	2a02:3030:412:6c4:b665:743e:9cb8:3f56
Verbindungslokale IPv6-Adresse:	fe80::a373:e3ad:2a6:651d%3
IPv4-Adresse:	192.168.97.190
IPv4-DNS-Server:	192.168.97.226
Hersteller:	         TP-LINK
Beschreibung:	TP-LINK 150Mbps Wireless Lite N Adapter
Treiberversion:	2.0.0.32
Physische Adresse (MAC):	14-CC-20-13-A1-0A
Using tutorials on how to get manual setting I could't get it done with internet connection. Only with the special IP of the adapter it is working at the moment.
I wait for the new adapter to come at the end of this week.
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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Hi,
Investigating further looks like when Android device is hotspot it is not possible to change DHCP settings to match Connection local IP Parameters :(

See https://android.stackexchange.com/quest ... on-android

May I ask why are you using Mobile hotspot on device that you need to sync to?
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Re: How connect for wifi when hotspot is on android client?

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I found out that I can save money if I give up the DSL connection I have been using so far and book a high data volume in the cell phone contract instead. Specifically: Previous DSL costs: 33€/month
Previous cell phone costs: 11€/month
Total: 44 €.

Now, with 50 GB data volume (which is enough for me) at same speed (50 mbps), I pay 22€/month.

If mobile hotspot doesn't work, I can sync via USB.
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