How many of you use the 5 star rating system

uncl-nis · Post by **uncl-nis** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:19 am

DiddeLeeDoo wrote:Like others here, I did not feel like manual ratings, however valuable it might be.

With the help of little bit of logic, I manage to put together an AutoRate system, available at http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... &start=113

The base of the system is simple. Tolerance for a song. If you like it, you tend to play it, if you do not, you tend to skip it if it plays.

Ideal solution if you have a collection that has received little or no attention in regards to ratings.

Worth I try. Plus a TTS Radio Announcer were added as a non-default option, if you're in a playful mood.

When time allow, I would like to put together a 'Catch-up' script based on a similar logic. To run once, and the whole collection will be rated. Then the current 'live' version will keep it up to date.

Thanx 4 the link (and the scripting work

) looks intresting

MeMeMe · Post by **MeMeMe** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:09 am

I'm surprised to hear people using 4 as their benchmark for what they like.
I'm setting the bar much lower - 2 is the rating I use for songs I like, and 3-5 get used for songs I like even more (with 5 being my absolute faves).
1 = songs I don't rate highly, but some nostalgia factor or sentimentality stops me deleting them, while 0/bomb are those I don't want to hear again - and I periodically review these and either bump them up to 1 or delete them.

DiddeLeeDoo · Post by **DiddeLeeDoo** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:00 am

MeMeMe wrote:4 as their benchmark for what they like.

It may reflect that most have not really put a heck of a lot of attention to manual rating. Doing like the other one said, 16,000 songs individually.. he for sure would get another hobby before that project got finished.

The AutoRate system use this as a base.

3.0 Stars and over = General use songs
2.5 Stars = Unrated
2.0 Stars and under = Only for special moods (or plain dislike)

As time go by, the rating progress do too, and it all will get rated according to how you use the songs. Simple really, and I wonder why my mother didn't tell me this when I grew up

This script is only a few days old, and is in the process of maturing. Moods is something that will be a factor to consider in coming versions. Not quite sure how to solve the mood problem, so any input would be higly appreciated.

MeMeMe · Post by **MeMeMe** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:21 am

DiddeLeeDoo wrote: It may reflect that most have not really put a heck of a lot of attention to manual rating. Doing like the other one said, 16,000 songs individually.. he for sure would get another hobby before that project got finished.

I often wonder why people have lots of tracks they don't actually want to listen to? Personally, I delete the songs I don't like.

DiddeLeeDoo · Post by **DiddeLeeDoo** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:31 am

A bit like christmas songs really, isn't it. Only played at certain occasions. Happy birtday songs. The wife's songs... that guy that visit in the summervacation's songs. There are songs in my library that I hate, but since I'm not the only one listening to music I feel I cannot delete them.

If I rate them 0.5 star songs, I just have to hide the rating field when 'whoever' wants to see what they can play..

Or even better, let them use another player.

MeMeMe · Post by **MeMeMe** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:41 am

Okay, I'll admit those sound like good reasons

I meant to ask, what is "the mood problem" - what do you plan to do with Mood?
There are a couple of scripts that allow you to change properties via hotkeys if you wish to manually change song Mood. (They are under Rating Hotkeys, as it happens.)

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:56 am

MeMeMe wrote:
DiddeLeeDoo wrote: It may reflect that most have not really put a heck of a lot of attention to manual rating. Doing like the other one said, 16,000 songs individually.. he for sure would get another hobby before that project got finished.
I often wonder why people have lots of tracks they don't actually want to listen to? Personally, I delete the songs I don't like.

i don't know why they keep them either. even the songs others like that are on the computer when they play them enough i get to liking them some what also. so the auto rating of them is good as it will only rate them mostly when others play them. as i do play them once in awhile.

but on the 24 \ 7 computer all the songs get played at random.

DiddeLeeDoo · Post by **DiddeLeeDoo** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:00 am

The sketch is something like.

Example:
High Mood
Normal Mood
Low Mood

Current Mood = Normal
Mark song Normal if played and upgraded
Protect High & Low Mood songs Ratings if skipped
Do not protect if current song already is marked Normal

Current Mood = High
Mark song High if played and upgraded
Protect Normal & Low Mood songs Ratings if skipped
Do not protect if current song already is marked High

Current Mood = Low
Mark song Low if played and upgraded
Protect Normal & High Mood songs Ratings if skipped
Do not protect if current song already is marked Low

Basically protect songs you like in other moods, and mark current song with current mood, when sucessfully played.

MeMeMe · Post by **MeMeMe** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:13 am

Interesting idea.
I hope you're planning to set it up as something you can easily switch on and off - I suppose whatever method you have for choosing current mood would handle that if there's a "None" option.
I would want MM to automatically set current mood to None or Blank on startup, so that the default behaviour is not to use it (and so you don't accidentally change songs if you forgot you left the Mood on one setting and you're now in a different mood).

DiddeLeeDoo · Post by **DiddeLeeDoo** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:22 am

I have a big handicap by having to learn as I go, takes time all this stuff, and a lot of research and reading. Fortunately some scripters here have been very kind to help out!! Have saved heaps of time that way.

I believe what you say would be best, and maybe leave 'Normal' as Blank(nothing)

At least that way you can have High and Low moods protected when they are played in a 'Normal' mood period.

I imagine smilies in the toolbar.

= Normal

= High

= Low

Something like that anyways.... so when the party is on, and you're on fire, hit the

button, and everything will be automatic.

Next day, in the morning, hit the

button, and all is automatic. In the afternoon the

button can be hit, to be back to normal.

When that chick comes over, hit the

button to get those romantic songs happening..

Can be taken to far, but that's the basic idea.

MeMeMe · Post by **MeMeMe** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:20 am

That sounds good.
Looking at your original tenplate:

DiddeLeeDoo wrote: Current Mood = High
Mark song High if played and upgraded
Protect Normal & Low Mood songs Ratings if skipped
Do not protect if current song already is marked High

I wonder if
Mark song High if played and upgraded
should be
Mark song High if played and not skipped
After all, you need several plays to upgrade a song that already has a high rating. But if you skip, it means it doesn't suit the mood - if you don't skip, then it does.

DiddeLeeDoo · Post by **DiddeLeeDoo** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:29 am

That sounds good to me.

If we keep it to High, Nothing and Low, it should be a pretty good start. All those other if's and but's really can be solved in other ways.

This is just a way to do a simle Skip Protector for songs you like while being high or low.

Thank you for sharing your ideas here. I very much appreciate it, and will try to get that into the version that's in the works now.

How many of you use the 5 star rating system

Looks intrseting!