Tagging Sort Artist for iPod? [#9064][#2915]

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Tagging Sort Artist for iPod? [#9064][#2915]

Post by tppytel » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:11 am

I'm not sure this is a MM issue per se, but I'm not sure where else to ask...

When I used iTunes to manage my music library, I could set a "Sort Artist" field to sort "Bob Dylan" as "Dylan, Bob" while retaining the display name of "Bob Dylan". But after repopulating my iPod via MM sync, everything just sorts as "Bob Dylan" (i.e. via the ARTIST or ALBUMARTIST tags). I tried using mp3tag to write "Dylan, Bob" to the ARTISTSORT fields, but it doesn't have any effect on the iPod's sorting. Is there some way (in MM, in mp3tag, or elsewhere) to implement that sorting functionality?

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Re: Tagging Sort Artist for iPod?

Post by nohitter151 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:02 am

No, this feature has yet to be implemented in MM.
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Re: Tagging Sort Artist for iPod?

Post by tppytel » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:18 am

OK, thanks. I'll have to go back and retag all my artist names back to the "Dylan, Bob" style, but I can live with that.

Can you (or anyone else) elaborate on why exactly this doesn't work? Unlike album art, I thought iTunes actually did write this information in the ID3 tag. Is it a different tag than the one that mp3tag writes? Or is that tag info getting lost in the sync to the device? I've tried to Google up technical details of how the sorting works, but just get buried in forums for Apple-centric people that don't go any deeper than "click the magic buttons in iTunes".

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Re: Tagging Sort Artist for iPod?

Post by nohitter151 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:38 pm

tppytel wrote:OK, thanks. I'll have to go back and retag all my artist names back to the "Dylan, Bob" style, but I can live with that.

Can you (or anyone else) elaborate on why exactly this doesn't work? Unlike album art, I thought iTunes actually did write this information in the ID3 tag. Is it a different tag than the one that mp3tag writes? Or is that tag info getting lost in the sync to the device? I've tried to Google up technical details of how the sorting works, but just get buried in forums for Apple-centric people that don't go any deeper than "click the magic buttons in iTunes".
The iPod does not read tags. During the sync process iTunes (and MM, and other apps that sync to iPods) create a database that the iPod uses to identify tracks.

Since MM doesn't support this field, it's not included in the database that is created during the sync process.
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Re: Tagging Sort Artist for iPod?

Post by tppytel » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:41 pm

I see. Thanks for the explanation!

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Re: Tagging Sort Artist for iPod?

Post by Lowlander » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:44 pm

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