Big_Berny wrote:@rc: But do you think that with your modification the re-encoded file sounds more than the original one compared to a song which gets re-encoded without adding echo? If yes, then you should be able to prove that.
yep i can prove it I've sent cdroms to some people already its just a matter of what you want to hear. i like live sound feeling from the original vinyl records. and i am not alone on that. because a few years ago the riaa company's started making vinyl albums again for people to buy. not sure if they stopped again in the last 5 years but they had started because people complained about the 2 missing Freq's on the Cd's. the vinyl sounded better, which means it has the two freq's on.
i think the digital has them too only the guys in the studio turn them down for some reason.? but in wave editing i can and add echo to them and turn them back up.
adding in echo as most are thinking is not the warbling in the sound you only get that if you add in too many milliseconds of delay for the echo. 0.004 on even voice only does not produce the echo with the warble it just adds enough to the freq.. that it is sounding as a little longer or fuller note that is said. if you add in 0.018 ms you can get the double note but you can also add in more echos then just one. and get the same grand canyon echo everyone thinks about when they read the word echo.
but in editing the wav the word echo is just used to mean repeat of the note on a freq.. with in a certain millisecond time to either produce warble echo or not produce warble echo.
simple way to understand it is go to a bar. with a live band.
and horrible sound acoustics in the building. you can have a note echo off the wall behind you and yet not make the song warble. it just adds a fullness in the sound, that is the short Milli second echo but you can go to a bar some times that is huge and sit on the other end from the band and get that warble echo you get in a canyon. that is horrible on some things, and it is the longer Milli second setting on the editing.
if you use the echo in the chorus freq's of 80, and a 20% modulation. and make it have 8 millisecond of delay you get nice big full sub woofer bass in the songs. but only on that bass freq of 80 hrz
if you have it at the 16 millisecond delay you get the warble sound.
now can you see what i mean with the echo. i just use it to pump up the freq's on the songs some of them you need it to get the voices out of the noise of the songs. you know when you go to a concert you can hear the words fine. but on the radio or tape or Cd's you sometimes have a hard time hearing some words. but on the old vinyl you don't. its those two missing freq's.
of course if you can't hear them in the first place then you don't know there is anything causing the words to be hard to hear.
and as for my sound on my system is the way i think sound is better that is just because Teknojnky cant even see any little point in what i say as true so he has to make cracks like that.
i can go to any sound system and show the way i did the sound is better on any system. because the way i do the sound is always adding or removing volume to freq's some systems can't handle some freq's cause they don't have the full range of speakers. some can. its like the old Wurlitzer organs some are set up for churches and can't play all the sounds as the ones set up for the theater's.
because they don't have all the pipes set up in the ones for the church's. they might be able to use some electronic sound to reproduce the parts the theater organs can. but it won't sound the same as the theater's sound.
so the sound quality issue has been around forever in one form or another. even the romans knew of it. but thats a longer page message so I'll stop with that.
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