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Re: I'm new and lost

Post by Anti »

Jeez, hard to get a straight answer for this one, but I got it from google eventually. The answer seems to be:
Yes, the iPod firmware is a pain in the arse and does everything possible to make your life a misery; it isn't just iTunes.

The two choices appear to be:

1)
Use a utility (Eg. EphPod or Sharepod) that works-around the existing ipod firmware.

2)
In order to turn the ipod into a flash drive, and drag-drop files like any other mp3player, you need to use a 3rd party firmware called Rockbox.


As I say, nice hardware, but I don't see why anyone should put up with that kind of major hassle.
My next mp3 player will be Chinese, again.
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Re: I'm new and lost

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What exactly is your problem with the iPod firmware? It works.
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Re: I'm new and lost

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I don't know what the problem is- I've never seen an ipod in real life; only google photos and reviews.

However, google 'ipod' and all you get is hundreds of pages of people having problems putting music onto it or taking music off.
It doesn't appear to work like a flash drive - it seems you can't just drag/drop music on and off it like you can with any other mp3player.
That's why I've never bought one. However, the Chinese ones I buy only last a year or two before breaking, so I thought I'd look for
something with a higher quality and design this time. But not if I can't drag/drop music on/off it.
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Anti wrote:I don't know what the problem is- I've never seen an ipod in real life; only google photos and reviews.

However, google 'ipod' and all you get is hundreds of pages of people having problems putting music onto it or taking music off.
It doesn't appear to work like a flash drive - it seems you can't just drag/drop music on and off it like you can with any other mp3player.
That's why I've never bought one. However, the Chinese ones I buy only last a year or two before breaking, so I thought I'd look for
something with a higher quality and design this time. But not if I can't drag/drop music on/off it.
Yes, that's how it works. But that's the beauty of doing it with MediaMonkey, you don't have to drag and drop, you can tell it what tracks you want to sync and it handles everything for you!
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But that's what I mean -it appears you need software in order to move your music around, rather than just using Windows Explorer?
In other words, you can't just plug an ipod into any computer (via usb), and drag some music onto the ipod?
Or vice versa - you can't move music from your ipod to a computer simply via usb and Windows Explorer?

All my other mp3players let me do that in windows explorer because they act like a flash drive.
I wouldn't buy a player that didn't work with Windows Explorer, even if they are the best players in every other respect.
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Anti wrote:But that's what I mean -it appears you need software in order to move your music around, rather than just using Windows Explorer?
In other words, you can't just plug an ipod into any computer (via usb), and drag some music onto the ipod?
Or vice versa - you can't move music from your ipod to a computer simply via usb and Windows Explorer?

All my other mp3players let me do that in windows explorer because they act like a flash drive.
I wouldn't buy a player that didn't work with Windows Explorer, even if they are the best players in every other respect.
Then I guess the iPod isn't for you. But when you drag and drop files with Explorer you lose certain things, like the ability to keep track of playcounts/ratings/etc. on portable devices. Plus you then often have to navigate the player via folders and filenames rather than use the track metadata to browse.
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Re: I'm new and lost

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OK. Thanks for the confirmation regarding how lame iPods are.
Apple won't be getting my money any time soon. :lol:
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Anti wrote:OK. Thanks for the confirmation regarding how lame iPods are.
Apple won't be getting my money any time soon. :lol:
Well, since 95% of people with iPods are using iTunes to manage their music, it isn't much of a problem for them.
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Anti wrote:OK. Thanks for the confirmation regarding how lame iPods are.
Apple won't be getting my money any time soon. :lol:
yep thats just what i did. let them have an ipod if they want it but i'm not getting one.

and unless its a simple to remember answer for ipod users i don't even answer them here i let that up
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Re: I'm new and lost

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If I happened to have an ipod someday...

First thing I would do is install Rockbox.
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Dreadlau wrote:If I happened to have an ipod someday...

First thing I would do is install Rockbox.
Any modern iPod will not run Rockbox.
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Re: I'm new and lost

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Aw. That's a shame :/
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Dreadlau wrote:Aw. That's a shame :/
Meh, not really. I've used tons of portable players including iPods with Rockbox but I always come back to the regular iPod firmware. It's simple, easy, efficient, and does everything I want it to including playlists on the fly, playcounts, ratings, etc.
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Re: I'm new and lost

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I need to remove music from my device and start over. What is the easiest way to do this.
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Re: I'm new and lost

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What makes it difficult is that if you got stuck or get to a certain point and run into trouble then you gotta come back here post the question and wait a long time to get an answer. I know once it is done, I'm sure I will enjoy MM.
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