Duplicates in playlist [#17629]

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Re: Duplicates in playlist [#17629]

by Ludek » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:17 pm

I think he just edited his first post and inserted the link there directly + the bug ID is suffixed with the topic name.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Barry4679 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:19 am

Ludek wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:11 am Barry, just look into Mantis, it has been already inserted by LowLander (and already fixed by me yesterday): https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17629
Thanks. I don't find it so easy to locate things in mantis, maybe I need training.

Sorry to bother you. I don't know why LowLander didn't respond. I will PM him, because it is suboptimal when someone is working in a silo, out of the team.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Ludek » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:11 am

Barry4679 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:46 pm I asked Lowlander to do this twice already in this thread, and apparently neither I, nor the issue, deserve a response. I don't understand why. The workaround that Lowlander has proposed certainly feels like the feature drop was accidental.
Barry, just look into Mantis, it has been already inserted by LowLander (and already fixed by me yesterday): https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=17629

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Barry4679 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:46 pm

Barry4679 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:19 pm
Lowlander wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:55 pm Only the Playing has an option to remove duplicates. So the only method would be to add the Playlist to the Playing, deduplicate and then send it back to the Playlist.
Surely it is an accidental omission. because the facility exists in MM4.

Can you create a request in Mantis please, so that the request may be tracked.
Peke, if you are reading this could you add this feature drop into Mantis please so that it may be tracked. Alternatively if the removal was intentional, could someone say so.

I asked Lowlander to do this twice already in this thread, and apparently neither I, nor the issue, deserve a response. I don't understand why. The workaround that Lowlander has proposed certainly feels like the feature drop was accidental.

Re: Duplicates in playlist [#17629]

by Lowlander » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:04 pm

That will be a personal evaluation for each user. I happily switched and although I do miss 1 Addon I've managed to work without it for now. I'd definitely request the Addon developers of Addons you using in MediaMonkey 4 if they can port to MediaMonkey 5 (this can be a fair bit of work though).

As MediaMonkey 5 is new it will likely take a bit to get a robust Addon library like MediaMonkey 4 which had more than a decade to develop.

Re: Duplicates in playlist [#17629]

by 1001Musik » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:36 am

Correct, but we want to switch to MM5 at some point. Or should we stay with MM4 for a long time because of various plugins that are not available for MM5?

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Lowlander » Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:25 am

There is a discussion on this already: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=98469

This was handled by an Addon in MediaMonkey 4.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by 1001Musik » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:13 am

Very good ... then I'll save it as proof :)

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Peke » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:15 am

Hi,
I agree, there is a space for improvements, in MM4 and earlier versions it was handled with plugins and scripts, same thing needs to be done in MM5 and it will overtime once migration to MM5 is ongoing and MM5 gets released as stable, official build.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by 1001Musik » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:22 pm

I'll join in because I don't have an overview of "which playlist is a song in".
I know the functions of the right mouse button. But you have to admit that the way using the right mouse button is very tedious. If I have 30 duplicate songs, nobody wants to right click 30 times?
A column is simply missing that shows whether a song is in a playlist. The integration of a playlist manager would be even better. There you can see at a glance whether a song is in a playlist and could also sort the song into several lists.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Peke » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:37 pm

Hi,
There is also a way to right click on track -> Find More from same -> Playlists and it should show you all playlist that track resides.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Langur » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:14 am

Lowlander wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:17 am The Properties > Classification tab will show which Playlists a file is associated with. This only works on Properties for a single file.
Yes, I had found that, but when you have a lot of duplicates it would be easier to have a column which just gives a if hint whether the title is part of the a playlist (yes/no would be enough). Maybe it's to special...
Lowlander wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:17 am I assume you're doing a Contextual Search within the Playlist when deletions are missed? This I wasn't able to reproduce on build 2316.
I just typed a name while having the playlist open, then deleted the title found, and deleted the search string. After that, the title seemed to be of the playlist again, but after leaving it completely and coming back it was gone. Build 2316, too.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Barry4679 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:00 am

Langur wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:49 am Sorry, I don't know mantis...
Sorry, the comment was directed towards Lowlander, not you. :D

Lowlander, could you add this request to Mantis please.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by 1001Musik » Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:07 am

Langur wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:49 am Other problem, when I delete duplicates from my archives, I don't get a hint which one is used in playlists... If I delete the wrong one, it's gone from the playlist. Just a column that tells me it is used in a static playlist would be great, so I could delete the non-used one and in dought, I can have a look in the attributes where there already exists a list of playlist.
That is exactly my problem too. There is no indication whether a song is already in the playlist.
So far I have managed to make an entry in a custom field, which is time-consuming. I mark all the songs that are in a playlist and put a mark. But you have to do it consistently. To this day I still cannot understand why such important information is missing in a music management system.

Re: Duplicates in playlist

by Lowlander » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:17 am

The Properties > Classification tab will show which Playlists a file is associated with. This only works on Properties for a single file.

I assume you're doing a Contextual Search within the Playlist when deletions are missed? This I wasn't able to reproduce on build 2316.

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