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Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:51 pm

That worked, as long as I put artist in the master field, instead of a subfolder. Looks great now! Hopefully it indexes right on the stereo!

Thanks for everyone's help.

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Lowlander » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:25 pm

Change - to \ in between the artist and album values in the Mask.

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:59 pm

Lowlander wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:51 pm You'll need to investigate (or experiment) what the device supports regarding Playlists. MediaMonkey has different options on how to Sync Playlists.
I mean, I know that, but I was hoping someone could tell me what I need to set the sync settings too to accomplish that. Earlier, you suggested <album artist 1> to set up letters for each album, so it's albums under A-Z.

Currently, the drive is filed as:

Album artists-album when I look in Explorer. That means there is a separate folder for each album under Music. For instance, for the Grateful Dead, of whom I have 30 or so albums, there are 30 folders, one for each album, labeled Grateful Dead - Album title.

I'd like the structure to have each artist be the first folder under Music, and then subfolders under the artists for each album. Any ideas of how I'd have to adjust the sync settings?

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Lowlander » Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:02 pm

It depends on how you setup Location in the Sync Profile.

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:53 pm

When I look at the drive on Explorer, it has a music folder, then each album. Is there a way to have MM sync it as Music > Artist > Album > Track?

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:33 am

Lowlander wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:35 pm Unless you are missing files on the drive when navigating on Windows the problem is most likely with the device reading the files. Have you tried a different drive?
Not yet. I'll try that. Thanks

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Lowlander » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:35 pm

Unless you are missing files on the drive when navigating on Windows the problem is most likely with the device reading the files. Have you tried a different drive?

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:17 pm

I called Kenwood. There are no limitations on the number of files.

And again. this is happening on MULTIPLE stereos, not just the Kenwood.

This is the xport setting:

\Music\<Album Artist> - <Album>\<Track #:2> $Left(<Artist>,20) - <Title>

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Peke » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:08 pm

Arafel wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:17 pm The purpose is to have me entire music library. I had a 512 gb iPod Classic for that reason. Sorry you have no imagination
OK, I understood why you want, but from experience (worked for 30+ radio stations over past 25 years) and avid collector that have 200k of Music tracks and 7k+ playlists. Every device that I used render unusable on larger library.

Call Kenwood and ask for limitations. We already know one, no playlist support.

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Lowlander » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:19 pm

Most of these devices are not designed for large libraries, thus you run into their limitations with such a large library. Some have limits on the amount of folders, others on the amounts of file, or even both. Check with the manufacturer what, if any, limitations your device may have and if there are any work-arounds.

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:17 pm

Peke wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:43 pm Hi,
I must agree with Lowlander, if you plan to have 10k+ tracks on portable device then most likely it will be bottleneck.

From my experience unless Head Unit is custom Linux or Android I really doubt you will have more than 10k of tracks and usually folder structure is limited to 256 up to 3 levels deep with 99-999 per folder and total of 9999 tracks.

That was the purpose of MMA and library management.

Personally I do no see the point of having 10k tracks on Head unit, tried and connected external HDD of 1TB with 45k tracks which unless are ordered in playlists there is no way that I even Scroll thru all tracks fast enough before I turn key and start driving. 1-3k tracks synced and rotated thru playlists is more than enough. Stats taken 20-25 tracks are 1h of music which means for 24h I need 700 tracks eg. around 8-16GB (depends on format) sorted in 10-15 playlists I like where I have easy freedom to switch them and it do not distract me from driving.
The purpose is to have me entire music library. I had a 512 gb iPod Classic for that reason. Sorry you have no imagination

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Peke » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:43 pm

Hi,
I must agree with Lowlander, if you plan to have 10k+ tracks on portable device then most likely it will be bottleneck.

From my experience unless Head Unit is custom Linux or Android I really doubt you will have more than 10k of tracks and usually folder structure is limited to 256 up to 3 levels deep with 99-999 per folder and total of 9999 tracks.

That was the purpose of MMA and library management.

Personally I do no see the point of having 10k tracks on Head unit, tried and connected external HDD of 1TB with 45k tracks which unless are ordered in playlists there is no way that I even Scroll thru all tracks fast enough before I turn key and start driving. 1-3k tracks synced and rotated thru playlists is more than enough. Stats taken 20-25 tracks are 1h of music which means for 24h I need 700 tracks eg. around 8-16GB (depends on format) sorted in 10-15 playlists I like where I have easy freedom to switch them and it do not distract me from driving.

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Arafel » Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:29 pm

Lowlander wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:29 am Perhaps the device has a limit to the amount of folders it can read. You could try to create letter folders (\<Album Artist:1>\), with the Artists organized in there.
Not just a device limit. I tried it in a different stereo and had the same problem with how many artists it read. As for my phone, I'd need to upgrade to a 512 gb phone from my current 256 to make that work

Re: Playlists on a flash drive?

by Lowlander » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:29 am

Perhaps the device has a limit to the amount of folders it can read. You could try to create letter folders (\<Album Artist:1>\), with the Artists organized in there.

Can't seem to create accurate flash drive

by Arafel » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:53 am

Hi

I've tried twice to create a flash drive for my car that mimics my old iPod Classic using MM. The first time, I formatted the drive as NTFS. It took MM 15 hours to sync to the drive. In the car, any artists after half my "R's" in my library wouldn't show under "Artists."

I decided to try again and reformatted as eFAT. The 10,000- plus songs copied faster, but now folders aren't there and artists end in the "M's."

Is there any way to get an accurate library to show up?

The stereo is a Kenwood DNX697S, which is a new system so it shouldn't be a problem

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