Again, Casting only one Song (Teufel Raumfeld) [#19951]

by **Peke** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:13 pm

Hi,

Rumcajs wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:29 pm Well, the thing is this doesn't happen always. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. I would say that it generally happens after about three songs. And once I unlock the screen, the playback resumes automatically, I don't have to tap anything, though the unlock screen shows the playback for MMA.

Unfortunately, that all points to your personal phone settings

by **Rumcajs** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:29 pm

Peke wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:59 pm This really sounds like MMA app is killed (not allowed to play in background) after Track ends than issue Kap1A describe.

When MMA stops can you tap next on Lock screen or Notification player and MMA continue playback of next track?

Well, the thing is this doesn't happen always. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. I would say that it generally happens after about three songs. And once I unlock the screen, the playback resumes automatically, I don't have to tap anything, though the unlock screen shows the playback for MMA.

by **Peke** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:59 pm

Hi,

Kap1A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 pm Only tested with MMA2 and/or the teufel app (which seems to be the hifi cast app), see my further posts.

Unfortunately, as noted by teufel, their teufel app is proprietary closed source app, which even contain DLNA/UPnP standard , most likely have own code so that other third party apps can't stream as good as their app and they are not interested to cooperate.

Rumcajs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:43 pm However, once I check the screen, the playback usually resumes (unlocking the screen fixes the issue).

This really sounds like MMA app is killed (not allowed to play in background) after Track ends than issue Kap1A describe.

When MMA stops can you tap next on Lock screen or Notification player and MMA continue playback of next track?

by **Kap1A** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 pm

Only tested with MMA2 and/or the teufel app (which seems to be the hifi cast app), see my further posts.

by **Rumcajs** » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:43 pm

Kap1A wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:01 am So here is the log Y93H2F93I7

MMA2 stops after casting 2 songs or so (I wasn't in the room).

But the display in MMA2 was still running. As I switched back in MMA2 to menu the track time then also stopped and the track time shows 10:24 min (this is way to long for this track). It seems that MMA2 didn't catch the end of the last song when casting stops?

The same thing is happening when casting through my Wiim Pro. It doesn't happen always, but still on a regular basis. A song ends and MMA doesn't go to the next song. When I check the screen, I catch a glimpse of the total time of the song and it shows a much longer song length then the song actually has. However, once I check the screen, the playback usually resumes (unlocking the screen fixes the issue).

I was advised that it could be aggressive battery management setting, but removing the power saving function actually made the issue even worse. I though the issue could be caused by the Wiim app effectively running in the background similarly to your app, but the issue does not exist when casting through different apps (such as Bandcamp). Have you tried casting through different apps than MMA? And did you also experience the same issue?

What is also odd is the playback is

by **Peke** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:35 am

Hi,
OUCH, That hurts. Yes it is something similar to Sonos reply.

Kap1A wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:54 am can only be operated via its own app (except Spotify Connect)

Unfortunately it is only GUI to access Spotify Service while playback is online streaming only. Also Spotify is paid service, where you do not own music just lease it to play. Implementing SMB3 license cost and involve much more work than implement DLNA renderer, which BTW can support all Metadata needed for device stream from MM to TV. Only difference is that in case of renderer Teufel is not the one controlling stats on number of files, metadata, but acts like any 8USD Aliexpress Cast Device, playing music.

by **Kap1A** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:54 am

I wrote again to the teufel support and asked also for support from teufel to your company, and this is what they answered:

"The Raumfeld system is a closed system that can only be operated via its own app (except Spotify Connect).

Control via other software is not intended.

The integration of a media server always comes with small restrictions, as Raumfeld then has no direct access to the titles and tags.

This means that one tag or another may not be transferred from the media server and cover images may not be transferred either. It helps to integrate the music collection via a network drive (smb) or USB, as Raumfeld then has direct access to folders and files, as well as their tags.

Since we are aware of the fact that many users would like to use an open system to be able to use their favorite apps, we are currently developing the Teufel Home System.

The Motiv Home is the first speaker of this new generation. More will follow soon. Any app can be used to control this via Chromecast or Airplay2."

This would mean that I probably have to invest in new speakers,what I definitely won't do.

At this stage I have to understand that I now have some really overpriced Bluetooth speakers.

Maybe the answer is similar to what you received from Sonos.

by **Kap1A** » Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:43 am

The casting problem to the teufel speakers still exists.

The last time I've tested this, MMA2 even stopped while the first track was playing.

This was enough for me.

I switched now to Bluetooth and that seems to be more stable but less comfortable. But it's the only way at the moment to listen to the music via MMA2 and the teufel speaker.

by **rusty** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:21 pm

Thanks! We'll look into this.

Tracking at https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=19951

-Rusty

by **Kap1A** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:02 pm

Here are the logs:

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There is no countdown when rushes from left to right. But when I klick everywhere on the timeline, then it shows the right time and starts to count normally.

by **rusty** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:34 am

Thanks! I've seen something similar when editing tracks, but not during casting. Can you share a log ID for when this occurs?

-Rusty

by **Kap1A** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:51 am

I've seen some mysterious things with the update 1076.

Sometimes, when casting stops, the time bar is running from left to right very fast (like a status bar in Windows when loading a program)

But it was also when the actual track was still playing). After this track, then casting stops. Or time bar shows no time again.

This happened on both (Moto e22 and Orbsmart).

by **rusty** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:10 am

Re. casting stopping: thanks for the logs--we're looking into it at https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=19951

Re. the loss of button control with recent builds I suspect that this will be fixed by https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=19933 in the next build.

Thanks!

-Rusty

by **Kap1A** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:59 am

New day, made a new log after casting stops after one track again, may this helps in solving the casting problem.

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by **Kap1A** » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:18 am

Right in the middle of a track casting stops and kicked out the connection to the speaker. This happened on the Moto E22.

I had to start via the casting button again.
Log KJXW5IHISI

after this,casting worked for 2 more tracks then stopped again, but without quitting casting, I only had to start the next track with the forward button. Then stopped again.

Fyi, I mostly listen to the whole library in random mode. But it has also quit casting when listening in track by track sorting.

Made another log after stopping again BUFKMIJ1N2

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