Version 5 is horrible

by **Peke** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:06 pm

Hi,
We are glad you understand it, sometimes for features to be added it takes time, but we often re prioritize things and for example https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5924 was added almost 14 years ago and finally came to its turn to be added.

Patience is virtue. I first developed CUE support 20+ years ago and it makes me very very happy to see it finally in MM.

User support is everything. No matter how much we are dedicated we are still small team doing the best we can.

MMFrLife wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:47 pm Again, I don't know whether that was all you Peke, or you had to confer with Rusty/the dev. team on the best way to say it, but much respect and hat tipping to anyone involved in stepping up with a good, solid answer!

You have my personal thx, it is specific relations in the team and that is why we are together for a long time.

by **MMFrLife** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:47 pm

I don't have a problem with being patient. I'm just glad someone stepped up on informing me of it, possibly others interested
in the issue too. I brought up the issue (or something related) a while back, if I remember correctly? I suspected it would be a grey area kind of topic and that it wouldn't get much reply traction, if any.

Anyway, I'm glad there is something being developed in that area. Hopefully, the Chromium aspect won't be too much of a limitation going forward. I mean, it is great to have that landscaped view without even considering multiple monitors, but the wonders provided by multi- monitors for something like this, in this day and age, just can't be ignored. I use two ultra wide monitors with MM.

Again, I don't know whether that was all you Peke, or you had to confer with Rusty/the dev. team on the best way to say it, but much
respect and hat tipping to anyone involved in stepping up with a good, solid answer!

Thanks!

by **Peke** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:13 am

Hi,
Custom positions are in work, but fairly limited due the Chromium Engine. It just needs bit more work and rewrite in order to make things better rather than break current work.

Bit of patience here, we are stretched bit thin and more urgent/pressing matters needs to be attended.

by **MMFrLife** » Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:05 pm

Has anyone had a chance to look into this?

Drakinite, anyone?

by **MMFrLife** » Sat May 27, 2023 12:20 pm

Drakinite wrote:Thank you for sharing your feedback. Have you tried using the Playing node? It lets you view the now playing list in the main screen. Are there specific features that the Playing node lacks that you're looking for?

Thanks for your reply!

The PN node is nice but here is what I want: simultaneous PN and FL.
See here : icedrive

EDIT: I updated image to show how they can be simultaneous without Left and Right side paneling barrier (ex., FL in image)

by **drakinite** » Fri May 05, 2023 10:18 pm

MMFrLife wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:35 pm I will never be pleased with 5 (the program itself), until I can move the playing panel to the top and/or main panel (I can't remember which will achieve what I want) like you can with 4. Is this planned for future development, a new addon, or the addon you refer to is capable of it? This isn't one of those "you can't please everyone" things. Being able to move the playing panel around in a way that allows for widening it's view, within the program, is just basic to the whole concept of a serious collector. For me, the way it's limitations are now is like the frustrations of a righty trying to write lefty (and reverse).

Thank you for sharing your feedback. Have you tried using the Playing node? It lets you view the now playing list in the main screen. Are there specific features that the Playing node lacks that you're looking for?

by **MMFrLife** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:35 pm

drakinite wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:54 pm
pokeefe0001 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:00 pm Until the Playing panel can be undocked and moved to an external monitor MM5 will be unusable for our group. (So not horrible; just completely unusable!)

If this has been addressed, or if there is some other way of getting the Playing list information onto another monitor, then I'll give MM5 another try. Otherwise I'll be wasting my time.
It was actually quite simple to make this into an addon. Try this, let me know if it suits your needs. If it's good, I might polish it up and publish it on the site. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqHzUrf30uprrspfLX3yMY95F5jb4A
Edit: Available now at https://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brow ... k-playing/

I will never be pleased with 5 (the program itself), until I can move the playing panel to the top and/or main panel (I can't remember which will achieve what I want) like you can with 4. Is this planned for future development, a new addon, or the addon you refer to is capable of it? This isn't one of those "you can't please everyone" things. Being able to move the playing panel around in a way that allows for widening it's view, within the program, is just basic to the whole concept of a serious collector. For me, the way it's limitations are now is like the frustrations of a righty trying to write lefty (and reverse).

by **yarguy** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:03 pm

drakinite wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:22 am I'm glad to hear It's impossible to please everyone, but hopefully as we continue to work & improve, more will share the same opinion as you.

You are not going to please me in MM5 until I can play all the tracks that consitute a classical composition with one click and can shuffle classical compositions - not tracks. I can do that in MM4 using linked tracks, but not in MM5. I know you added the ability to add extended tags and it is easy in MP3TAG to craete and use tags for WORK and PART (the conventional approach to handling classical compositions), but MM5 doesn't read them and even if they are added manually in MM5 there is no way to use them.

by **Peke** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:24 pm

howesjohn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:39 pm I upgraded a year ago and gave up on version 5. But I reloaded the latest version and now I am impressed. Somebody did a lot of clean up work. Love the program. Not horrible anymore. Approaching 15000 mp3s.

Glad to hear that.

We tried to listen to our users especially those that used MM3/4 for years (its engine lasted 10+ years).

As we say "Any feedback, even bad one helps MM to improve."

Happy New 2023. and HAPPY MONKEYING!

by **howesjohn** » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:39 pm

I upgraded a year ago and gave up on version 5. But I reloaded the latest version and now I am impressed. Somebody did a lot of clean up work. Love the program. Not horrible anymore. Approaching 15000 mp3s.

by **drakinite** » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:22 am

I'm glad to hear

It's impossible to please everyone, but hopefully as we continue to work & improve, more will share the same opinion as you.

by **Johnw24** » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:07 pm

The more I use MM5 the more I am impressed. At first it does seem a little lacking but it is a remarkable media player and DAM
(Digital Asset Manager). It has more ways to display ones music collection than MM4 had. Its a more grown up program.

I am really liking it.

by **Ludek** » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:19 am

Nice work Draki!

The addon works perfeclty to undock Playing : https://www.dropbox.com/s/2cm4ut118itg5 ... 4.png?dl=0

Go and publish it

by **drakinite** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:54 pm

pokeefe0001 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:00 pm Until the Playing panel can be undocked and moved to an external monitor MM5 will be unusable for our group. (So not horrible; just completely unusable!)

If this has been addressed, or if there is some other way of getting the Playing list information onto another monitor, then I'll give MM5 another try. Otherwise I'll be wasting my time.

It was actually quite simple to make this into an addon.

Try this, let me know if it suits your needs. If it's good, I might polish it up and publish it on the site. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqHzUrf30uprrspfLX3yMY95F5jb4A
Edit: Available now at https://www.mediamonkey.com/addons/brow ... k-playing/

by **pokeefe0001** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:00 pm

Until the Playing panel can be undocked and moved to an external monitor MM5 will be unusable for our group. (So not horrible; just completely unusable!)

If this has been addressed, or if there is some other way of getting the Playing list information onto another monitor, then I'll give MM5 another try. Otherwise I'll be wasting my time.

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