How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

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Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by 1001Musik » Thu May 11, 2023 7:48 am

I had submitted a ticket before, no error was found as expected.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by nonob » Thu May 11, 2023 1:27 am

I'll try to do that when I have a moment :)

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Lowlander » Wed May 10, 2023 11:44 am

I've been unable to reproduce. Please capture problems you experience in a debug log (step 4b) and attach the log to a Support Ticket: viewtopic.php?t=86643

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by nonob » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:12 am

Thanks for your reply :)

I understand but I just tried a new sync:
- Sync a playlist with 149 tracks
- Sync is ok for 144 tracks (displayed on Spotidy) and MM says 5 tracks can't be synced (2 aren't on Spotify, 3 have titles a little different between Spotify and MM)
- I rename 2 tracks on MM to match Spotify names and I delete 1 track from my MM playlist
- Sync again: only 2 tracks are displayed on MM log sync (it is normal: tracks that don't exist on Spotify), but my Spotify playlist doesn't seem to be updated with the two "new" tracks (with fixed names): My Spotify playlist still have 144 tracks (it should be 146 now)

Maybe an important detail: my MM playlist is a dynamic playlist created with the condition "Comment contains..."

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Lowlander » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:19 pm

The Playlist on Spotify is newer, thus MediaMonkey doesn't overwrite it as it has an older version. If you make a change to the Playlist in MediaMonkey, then the file(s) removed on Spotify will show again on Spotify.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by nonob » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:15 am

Hi,

I'm trying the Spotify synchronization feature with MM5 :).
With MM4, I made the "sync" manually by just adding new tracks to my matching Spotify Playlist.

I want the sync to be one way only: from MM to Spotify, it seems to be how it works if I don't enable the option "scan spotify content to local database", but I have a question:

For testing, I tried to delete a track on Spotify from a synced playlist.
Then, I sync the playlist again from MediaMonkey and I thought the track will be readded to Spotify, but it isn't ! I have to delete the entire playlist from Spotify and make a new sync if I want to retrieve all my tracks.
Is it normal?

Thanks :)

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by mrfart » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:13 am

What is the original score system of spotify tracks based on?
There is no 5 star system in spotify, and I never gave most of these tracks a rating in media monkey.

I guess it's not possible to order spotify playlists by date added?
Come to think of it, can you do that with the normal playlists in MM?

Thanks.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by susanocraig » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:26 am

I don't know how it works but I'd like to understand how.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by F1nchy » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:21 am

Hey Barry

I removed Spotify as a source a few weeks ago as it was taking ages to sync (20 minutes plus, everytime I ran File > Add > Scan to pick up new files).

After I did, I realised that AlbumPlays was creating entries in it's DB for all the tracks played in Spotify that didn't it didn't have a physical entry for (ie cloud ones, ones that I didn't have, or that it had failed to match with) and I had to delete around 40 tracks from AP before I could continue using it.

I'm back to using MMA for mostly playing music on my phone and tablet instead of Spotify so have not added the Spotify sync in. It seems that I can still send playlists to Spotify, so for the time being I'll just manually do that for any that I want on Spotify and stick with MMA for my auto-updating playlists.

Although getting my Pixel 6 Pro to sync up is very hit and miss.....!

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Barry4679 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:53 am

F1nchy wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:03 pm Am I correct in thinking that if you set it to sync with Spotify (as opposed to syncing individual playlists from MM5 to Spotify) there are tracks in the Spotify playlists you're syncing to that are not in MM5, MM5 creates a kind of virtual entry in MM5?
Hi Matthew,

have a look at the Source tag for those tracks. ... in the File Properties dbox, or by adding the Source column to list of tracks displayed.

Those tracks should have an explanatory Source icon. You can use the Source tag to isolate and delete those tracks from MM if you wanted to. .. ie. filter or sort the display using The Source column, and then Remove the tracks.

Or you can probably de-select them from what what you are syncing to MMA.
It is not as easy as it should be. You probably (I have not got Spotify btw) can select tracks "downloaded" from Spotify ... ie. "Source is cloud (downloaded)" ... but for some disappointing reason you cannot restrict to tracks NOT downloaded from Spotify.

But you could try creating a Collection where the criteria is "Source is Network" (ie. your NAS). That should exclude those tracks, so you could then sync to MMA from within that Collection.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by F1nchy » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:03 pm

Am I correct in thinking that if you set it to sync with Spotify (as opposed to syncing individual playlists from MM5 to Spotify) there are tracks in the Spotify playlists you're syncing to that are not in MM5, MM5 creates a kind of virtual entry in MM5?

I've found a number of tracks in MM5 that are not in my local collection and when I sync to MMA I often get a couple of 'cant sync these files' kind of errors, and they all seem to be the virtual entry (presumably because it can't sync audio that's not actually physically in the collection)?

If I remove the Spotify sync it removes those entries from MM5.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Ludek » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:12 pm

During the sync MM5 uses the metadata like title, album, artist, length for comparisons and the matched tracks are paired/synced.

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Liebhab-Baer » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:37 am

So did I get this right: Spotify checks out the meta data of my mm files? So if - for what ever reason - I add information to the title tag, it won't find them?

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Ludek » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:24 am

Do you think that "highly rated and most played" tracks in MM5 should become "liked" songs in Spotify after the sync?
Based on which criteria?
I suppose you can easily make auto-playlist in MM5 and sync this playlist to Spotify to accomplish this?

Re: How does the integration with Spotify actually work?

by Jameskb101 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:18 am

Hey

Great job to lowlander for providing the new MM5, vastly improved visuals and features, and I'm a long-time gold user.

Is there any planed (or already available) functionality to allow one to send their MM5 playback history to Spotify so that it can help inform Spotify about your likes etc, so your algorithms to find new music can be improved? I listen to a lot of older music via MM5 in high-res flac format, but then use Spotify for listening to newer stuff that I stream rather than have downloaded.

Would be great if the two could talk to each other in this way on top of syncing playlists.

Is that possible? Like a last fm scobbling feature I guess, but for MM5-Spotify.

Cheers

James

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