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Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:27 am

No, there is a single multi-zone available. However with Chromecast you can setup groups in the Google App and MediaMonkey will see the groups. There is nothing similar for DLNA.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by syrianprince » Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:55 am

Peke wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:51 pm Hi,
MM5 is capable for multi outputs, click on Play To player icon and setup your multizone ;)

If something do not works, let us know.
This is great. Thanks developers. Is it possible to set up more than one multizone?
Cheers

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by zombiefly » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:16 pm

i use MMA on phones and tablets. I believe it's possible to run android on the pi4, but that seems like a bit too much hassle. I posted a request in the dev forum, maybe there is need for a monkeybridge? ;)

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:09 pm

Both MediaMonkey 5 and MediaMonkey for Android show Artwork when playing from a MediaMonkey 5 Media Server. I don't really use other clients with screens though.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by zombiefly » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:59 pm

while the concept works, software that works reliably in terms of playing the stream full screen automatically with the album art is sadly lacking. I am using my ropieee xl as the endpoint for now but no screen action, unfortunately.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by zombiefly » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:04 pm

ok, so i could use a low resource os and setup a script to autostart if there is no background job. I will investigate :)

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:03 pm

As long as a player on the Pi allows to be controlled by a DLNA control point you can select them in MediaMonkey to play to.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by zombiefly » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:58 pm

thanks, i just found that setting in the play to...

do you know if there is anyone thinking of/working on a bridge? adding this would blow roon out of the water, their UI/options/features are seriously lacking. I will suggest it as a feature if it's not already in the pipeline and maybe contact the developer of ropieeeXL and see if they are interested in creating a version that maybe wraps up a DNLA stream? The problem is while I can set up a 3rd party player on the PI, they are all headless and my Linux knowledge is OK at best.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:50 pm

MediaMonkey can do multi-device casting by setting up a multi-zone: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... t_Renderer

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by zombiefly » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:40 pm

ok cool. will that be able to work as part of a multi-room then?

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:37 pm

MediaMonkey casts via DLNA or Chromecast. You can stream from MediaMonkey using DLNA. So you'd need a DLNA capable client on the Raspberry and it should be able to get Artwork.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by zombiefly » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:35 pm

hi guys,
i'm having something of a moment here. I defected to roon to give multi-room a go, i have a few raspberry pi's with screens acting as roon bridges.
today i checked back in on MM5 and wow, things have jumped forward somewhat! :) MM5 is great, buggy, but the potential is fantastic.

My roon experience is not going well, since the last major update the core is unstable and crashes at random. So, now i've plugged in my dac's via usb (long cables already installed from previous MM4 setup, which was a pain with no multiroom)

So, to the point! .. is there any component I can use on my PI ex roon bridges that would display the album art for the multizone? (i.e. like ropieeeXL for the roon bridge). or, is there something that i can use on my PI as a remote "receiver". i.e. like a MMbridge ala roon? the problem now is i have a lot of network receivers unable to receive! :)

it seems, given the API's and extensibility of MM5 this is now a fully viable proposal? Exciting times. cancelling ROON subscription immediately :)

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:59 am

The first says it has DLNA and the second says it has Chromecast, so it should work and should work with multiple of them using Play To: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... t_Renderer

Do note that you can't expect exact synchronized playback, only wired can truly provide that. This can be a problem if the different speakers are in the same space.

Where possible I'd try to find a solution that offers DLNA, Chromecast and Bluetooth as that is the most flexible. I've found streaming to multiple Chromecasts more reliable than multiple DLNA clients. AirPlay can also be useful if you use any Apple products, but MediaMonkey can't stream to AirPlay.

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by bjmtchbx » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:25 am

Very informative and helpful. I appreciate you taking the time. Would something like these work with the multi-room system: https://audioengineusa.com/shop/adapter ... -streamer/

and/or this:
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_580TX8270 ... -8270.html

These items when connected to Wifi, would show up on the multi room list? I noticed my Yamaha surround sound system showed up on that list when I was fussing with it last night.

As an aside, I love MediaMonkey, have been using it for years and can't imagine using anything else, so thanks to all for a great product. I bought the lifetime license. Thanks for your help in getting my little issue solved!

Re: MM5 Playing to multiple outputs

by Lowlander » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:08 pm

Both DLNA and Chromecast are streaming protocols, generally build into speakers/receivers, just like Bluetooth. However unlike Bluetooth it uses wifi/ethernet to work.

The problem is the underlying technology, Bluetooth is 1 to 1 in most cases, only in very recent iterations would 1 to 2 be supported and in that case both the host (PC hardware) and the receivers would need to support that (if I remember correctly).

Other than Chromecast, DLNA and using an FM transmitter there is no real viable way to accomplish this.

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