MM5 Views and View Types [#18085]

by **MyVikes** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:44 am

The persisting of "Column filters" appeared to be working in version 5.0.2.2500....Thanks!

by **Lowlander** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:29 am

Did you make changes in the settings? Or are the settings you changed in the Main Window being saved (which is intended).

by **sopito** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:53 am

But is it also intended that the settings are changed even when you exit the edit mode with "cancle"? Im my eyes this makes absolutely no sense and I messed up my (rather complex) setting at least 10 times until I understood that I must never enter the edit mode if I do not want to lose my settings.

by **Lowlander** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:11 pm

This is intended. You can edit what's shown either through the Configure View or directly in the Filelisting by adding/removing/sorting columns.

by **sopito** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:42 pm

I am basically having the same issue and I believe that there actually is a combination of unintuitive behaviour with a real bug:

- I can define and name a custom view and I can also apply it to different track lists. The settings I make are preserved when restarting MM5 (v. 5.0.1). This works for the choice and order of columns as well as for sort order.

- I can also mess up the view of a track list (columns or sort order) and fix it again by re-applying my custom view.

- When opening opening "manage views" and then chosing to edit an already existing custom view not the original settings of the custom view will be shown but the view settings of the current track list (which may be messed up). This is not exactly a bug but not a behavoiur which I would actually expect.

- Irrespective of whether you exit with "cancle" or "ok" the custom view settings will then be overwritten with the current view. This appears to be a bug.

Proposal:
- Fix bug (do not overwrite settings when exiting with "cancle")
- Show original settings (not current view settings) when editing an already existing custom view and rather offer a function "update view based on current setting" instead to to avoid unintentional changes by the user.

by **lueromat** » Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:48 am

+1, have edited my views in various context (e.g. by clicking on an album artist, or genre) through "manage views". I do the edits, but they don't seem to get saved. or, at least, those edits then don't work across all contexts - i.e., it matters how I access a "list" or "list (by album)" view

by **MyVikes** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:22 pm

Ludek wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:46 am Hi, I am seeing the same, tracking as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=18085

Thanks for reporting!

Much appreciated!

by **Ludek** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:46 am

Hi, I am seeing the same, tracking as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=18085

Thanks for reporting!

by **Barry4679** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:25 am

MyVikes wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:08 am When i make the same changes in MM4 , exit and restart the column filters (that is the formal name i was missing) are not lost but in MM5 they are lost.

Yes, that is the issue that I have mentioned in thread three times now.

I "created" a View based upon List By Album ... my custom view included the Column Browser

once this view is created, I can find no way to make a persistent change to Column Browser (eg. change the filter from AlbumArtist|Album|Title to Composer|Album|Title)

from what I can see, the Column Browser setup at the point of View creation is frozen into the view specification

I can alter the view, while I am "using" it, but I cannot alter the specification ... ie. every time that I "use" the View it opens with the original frozen Column Filter setup

The issue was reported 5th of May, but has not been confirmed the Devs yet. I am also keen to see it confirmed and fixed.

by **MyVikes** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:08 am

Here is before changes: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1up4p3iqbrlja ... e.JPG?dl=0
Here is the after: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ztoihxwxei1nm ... r.JPG?dl=0

When i make the same changes in MM4 , exit and restart the column filters (that is the formal name i was missing) are not lost but in MM5 they are lost.

by **Lowlander** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am

At your set created my own view using the "List (by Album)" View type which node is selected in the Media Tree when you create the View?

What's the top section , is it the Column Filter?

Feel free to add screenshots to explain what you see: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97733

by **Barry4679** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:04 am

MyVikes wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:21 am This is not what i'm trying to do.

Steps I'm following:

created my own view using the "List (by Album)" View type

select "Music" in the left navigation pane

right click on a column in the top section and select "Add column"

under "ALL FIELDS" in the top section select a column

drag/drop a column in the top section left or right to position it

customize columns in the bottom section [i think this is what you're describing]

close MM5

reopen MM5

After i do this all the changes i've made are lost

I can't be sure because you are not using the standard names for the UI elements.
Unless you have configured your layout, I think that you are seeing the second issue in my Bug report, that i linked to above.
ie. no persistence in the "top section" (aka the Column Filter).
They have had that report for a month, but have not responded yet, due the number of early issues following MM5 release, I suppose.

However I do see persistence for changes made in the "bottom section" (aka Main panel).

by **MyVikes** » Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:21 am

This is not what i'm trying to do.

Steps I'm following:

created my own view using the "List (by Album)" View type
select "Music" in the left navigation pane
right click on a column in the top section and select "Add column"
under "ALL FIELDS" in the top section select a column
drag/drop a column in the top section left or right to position it
customize columns in the bottom section [i think this is what you're describing]
close MM5
reopen MM5

After i do this all the changes i've made are lost

by **Lowlander** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:08 am

I can't reproduce:
1 Select Entire Library
2 Use Manage Views
3 Edit List (by Album)
4 Added Added column at end to enabled columns
5 Saved and returned to Filelisting
6 Restart MediaMonkey
7 Added still shows

by **Barry4679** » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:40 am

MyVikes wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:39 am When i start with a custom view with a view type of "List (by Album)" and add a column (i.e. Album Artist) it's fine until i restart MM5 and then the changes are gone. I don't see a way to save the view and/or create a custom "View type".

I cannot replicate this problem.
See my post above yours, for some info which may explain what you are seeing.

How are you closing MM5? Presumably you are not closing it by rebooting the PC when MM5 is still running.

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