by monkeyfan1970 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:22 pm
Ludek wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:44 am
Yes, Web node implementation in MM is very basic.
It is also problematic as currently every page is loaded within the MM5 process -- so blowing up RAM usage of MME process and causing that single web page can crash whole MM (resulting in a need to kill MM process in task manager).
For the future we would like to start separate process for every single web page (e.g. like Chrome does) -- until then the Web node functionality won't probably expand further. Tracking as
https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=18066
Hello Ludek,
I don't mean to bash on MM5. It is excellent, and I am using it. I am not the kind of user who will resist change when updating new software. In my opinion, MM4 is near perfect. It does have its minor flaws; But nothing of a significant shortcoming. Hence MM4 is my default media player. In my opinion, MM4 is still superior to MM5. Almost every department. Yes, I like the new MM5 look and feel.
I understand the reason behind the development MM5. You have written from the ground up for possible cross-platform deployment and a modern codebase. And it uses chromium as its foundation. I also understand development usually take a long time. When you look at what's new for MM5.
https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/What%27s_New_in_V5 It is great that it has new features. But almost none of the new features are beneficial for me. Cause I can already achieve them in MM4. Maybe I am a super niche user. Hence, the question is, "
What is the real and true incentive for upgrading or switching to MM5?"
I understand every feature request is looked at carefully if it makes any sense to add or tweak. However, if MM5 supposed to replace MM4, it needs to do better. I am not saying the web node is the saviour.
When it comes to modern web music streaming and listening, there are a lot of links that users have to deal with. Well, they can bookmark them in their browsers. I hate bookmarking youtube music or Soundcloud links. I always wonder if they be organised in a meaningful way? Where clicking the link would play the song as a track might play. This is where I strongly feel the web node could come into play. MM5 can be a music hub for its users if you want it to be.
I strongly urge and appreciate for you to look into the web node. You could start with Youtube and Soundcloud first. I believe there are APIs available for them.
https://developers.soundcloud.com/docs/api/guide
Thank you!
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Yes, Web node implementation in MM is very basic.
It is also problematic as currently every page is loaded within the MM5 process -- so blowing up RAM usage of MME process and causing that single web page can crash whole MM (resulting in a need to kill MM process in task manager).
For the future we would like to start separate process for every single web page (e.g. like Chrome does) -- until then the Web node functionality won't probably expand further. Tracking as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=18066
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Hello Ludek,
I don't mean to bash on MM5. It is excellent, and I am using it. I am not the kind of user who will resist change when updating new software. In my opinion, MM4 is near perfect. It does have its minor flaws; But nothing of a significant shortcoming. Hence MM4 is my default media player. In my opinion, MM4 is still superior to MM5. Almost every department. Yes, I like the new MM5 look and feel.
I understand the reason behind the development MM5. You have written from the ground up for possible cross-platform deployment and a modern codebase. And it uses chromium as its foundation. I also understand development usually take a long time. When you look at what's new for MM5. https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/What%27s_New_in_V5 It is great that it has new features. But almost none of the new features are beneficial for me. Cause I can already achieve them in MM4. Maybe I am a super niche user. Hence, the question is, "[b]What is the real and true incentive for upgrading or switching to MM5?[/b]"
I understand every feature request is looked at carefully if it makes any sense to add or tweak. However, if MM5 supposed to replace MM4, it needs to do better. I am not saying the web node is the saviour.
When it comes to modern web music streaming and listening, there are a lot of links that users have to deal with. Well, they can bookmark them in their browsers. I hate bookmarking youtube music or Soundcloud links. I always wonder if they be organised in a meaningful way? Where clicking the link would play the song as a track might play. This is where I strongly feel the web node could come into play. MM5 can be a music hub for its users if you want it to be.
I strongly urge and appreciate for you to look into the web node. You could start with Youtube and Soundcloud first. I believe there are APIs available for them. https://developers.soundcloud.com/docs/api/guide
Thank you!
