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Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Ludek » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:47 pm

yes, I can confirm that "Golden Monkey" is missing the Stop button.

BTW: I think that "Golden Monkey", "Red Devil" and "Purple Haze" should not be in the default skins anyway.
I believe that I moved them to sampleScripts folder some time ago, but they somehow got back to the dafault skins.
To be reviewed.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Barry4679 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:51 am

Ludek wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:32 am Peke, I don't think that you misread it
Sorry Guys, I really messed up reporting this issue. I became confused between the skin names.

It was Golden Monkey where I had the missing Tools|Options|Layout|Player panel.
This is fixed in 2238.
And it is there where the Stop control is still missing, which I could see once the panel became accessible to me.

I did post an image showing the panel problem, in my original report, but I accidentally overwrote the image with a different report involving the Monkey Groove skin. This has meant that my skin name confusion was not obvious to you.

I never did a have a problem with Monkey Groove.

So apologies to Ludek for supplying confusing info, and apologies to Peke if I insulted him by my comment.

BTW, it is also the Golden Monkey skin where I observed the MM5 hang when changing to|from that skin.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Ludek » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:32 am

Peke wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:18 am Hi,
Sorry, I misread it. Hope You can fogive :oops:
Peke, I don't think that you misread it, as Barry really wrote this:
Barry4679 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:33 am 2238 resolved my problem with Monkey Groove skin, except for the fact that it does not support the optional Stop button.
So good to know that 2238 also fixed the availability of the Stop button for him.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Peke » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:18 am

Hi,
Sorry, I misread it. Hope You can fogive :oops:

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Barry4679 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:30 pm

Peke wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:59 am I use Groove Skin as default and have Stop Button
You are way behind the play Peke :)

I was reporting that problem with version 2234. I have already reported that that problem is resolved with 2238.

The latest post in this thread is a about MM5 hanging when changing skins. I have only observed it when changing to, or from, Monkey Groove.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Peke » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:59 am

Hi,
I use Groove Skin as default and have Stop Button

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Barry4679 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:33 am

2238 resolved my problem with Monkey Groove skin, except for the fact that it does not support the optional Stop button.

While testing, I managed to trigger a MM hang twice while changing skins.

Notes:
  • One time I was changing from Black Monkey to Golden Monkey, and the other time from Golden Monkey to Material Design (dark)
  • Each time I had toggled to|from the Miniplayer in Golden Monkey, and also visited Tools|Options|Layout|Player
  • each time I am left with just this, shows the colour of which skin I was going to (ie. yellow or black)
  • I have to terminate MM5, using the Task manager, from the "Background Services" area, because it is not listed in the "Apps" section ... MM5 has three active processes in the Background Services area
PM'd link to Debug Log, to Ludek, with some notes ... PS. tried to raise a ticket, as per your recent post, but issues at you end, see here

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Ludek » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:07 am

Really strange that it does not work same way as on my PC.

If you right-click the white area in the Options > Layout > Player and select 'Inspect Element', does it include div with data-id pnl_LayoutPlayer in the DOM like https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfeonmyolj8t2 ... 9.png?dl=0
?
Or the pnl_LayoutPlayer isn't there at all ?

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Barry4679 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:01 am

Ludek wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:52 am I think it is caused by one bug that when you installed 2234 on top of older builds then the skins in your skin folder should not longer be presented as plain folders, but as zip packages, this is fixed in 2235+
My procedure is always to create a clean install, and to always install in portable mode.
  • rename the prior MM5 folder .. in case I need to do a comparison
  • install MM5 in portable mode into a new folder
  • allow importation of data and settings from MM4
  • start testing
I am confident that I did this for 2234 also, because:
  • the MM5 folder creation date is 23rd March ... date 2234 released
  • I can still see the renamed folder, from the previous install ... its creation date is 14th March, which was when version 2232 was released ... I didn't install 2233 as real life intervened ... I have install exe's for 2232 & 2234, but none for 2233
There is a folder at C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\MediaMonkey5, but it is empty.
I am starting the MM5 portable install, and can't think of anywhere else it would be finding old files from.

btw ... the skins folder in the 2232 version is just zip files also

?

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Ludek » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:52 am

Your 'Monkey Groove' skin is really broken, not seeing this on clean install of 2134.

I think it is caused by one bug that when you installed 2234 on top of older builds then the skins in your skin folder should not longer be presented as plain folders, but as zip packages, this is fixed in 2235+

For now workaround should be:
- install 2234 to separate folder (not to a folder where previous MM5 build was)
OR
- go to /Skins/ folder and remove the versions of skins that are not in ZIP package.
i.e. if there is only 'MonkeyGroove.zip' then it is OK, but if there is also 'Monkey Groove' folder then remove the folder.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Barry4679 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:55 pm

Ludek wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:13 am I see Stop button in the Monkey Groove skin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iz874pq3gn989 ... 6.png?dl=0
You sure that you are running vanilla version 2234? .... I am not seeing that, see here .. press the play button

One other thing about that skin (Monkey Groove) ... it doesn't support Switch To MiniPlayer either.
Lowlander wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:49 am Right click on tray icon has Stop button and you can set a hotkey as well.
I think that you misread what I tried to say.
I said that I could see a Stop control in the Microplayer, but not in the Miniplayer.

Also I was just saying that it was inconsistent.

My (admittedly small) Use Case for a visible Stop Control is only in the main UI:
  • I don't use MM as a player, because I have Sonos.
  • I have sound on my PC turned off, to avoid distraction when browsing the Internet.
  • I like it that MM5 allows me to configure a track double click to not play, because accidental (silent) plays, stuff up my play stats, which stuffs up my active playlists
  • It also like it that MM5 allows me to configure the UI, so that on the limited occasions when I am using MM as a player, a track double click is auto-recognised a as a player action, just in this limited context
  • So in this Use Case, it is desirable to have a Stop button, to terminate, rather than just Pause, playing
I think that I will stop posting about this now. Now that MiPi has explained that there is an option which turns visibility on for the invisible Stop button, in most skins, much of this has gone away for me.
  • support is missing from Golden Monkey, but I seriously doubt that anyone would ever chose to use that skin :o
  • it is missing, for me, from Monkey Groove, but that seems to be due to a bug
  • I think that it would be best if the Stop button visibility was defaulted to ON, to ease migration from MM4, and because it has a useful function for people who object to hearing partial tracks when they resume playing, after a lengthy break ... ie. Classical Music people

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Lowlander » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:49 am

Right click on tray icon has Stop button and you can set a hotkey as well.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Ludek » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:13 am

Barry4679 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:59 am Two of the skins that you ship don't support the Stop control, and one (Monkey Groove) doesn't even support the Tools|Options|Layout|Player menu at all. ... Expected?
I see Stop button in the Monkey Groove skin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iz874pq3gn989 ... 6.png?dl=0

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Davo » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:10 am

Thanks for raising this Barry. I'd been wondering why there was no stop button on the player. Now I know why. I agree the default should be on.

Re: 2234 - the UI has no Stop Media Playing control

by Barry4679 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:59 am

Lowlander wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:20 pm As for clearing queue, are you emptying Now Playing? What state was it before as here with it Playing it continues playing (like MMW) and then stops at end of file.
Thanks for the followup Lowlander.

I just retested, and it seems that I got confused somehow. I thought that I saw that I could stop playing from the Now Playing panel, but I now see that I can't. Sorry about wasting your time.

Coming back to the Stop UI control, and the Playback settings in Tools|Options|Layout|Player:

Two of the skins that you ship don't support the Stop control, and one (Monkey Groove) doesn't even support the Tools|Options|Layout|Player menu at all. ... Expected?

Also there is a Stop option in your MicroPlayer, but none in your MiniPlayer. That makes no sense., does it?

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