by Peke » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:56 pm
TidalWave wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:47 pm
This is not intended to be a hate post so please do not take it as such.
Understood.
TidalWave wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:47 pm
I am curious what work is left to be done on MediaMonkey 5 before it can be released. Each week it seems there is a new build with 15-25 fixes. This has been going on for close to 3 years (12/20/16 - present). I looked at the development of MediaMonkey 4 and it entered beta on 12/24/2010 and was officially released on 11/15/2011 after many rounds of beta builds and 5 release candidates.
Answer is simple MM4 was major upgrade from MMW3 in terms of handling and synchronization and still >80% of code was pre-existing and developed over 8+ years, but MM5 is complete rewrite of MediaMonkey from 0 Bytes and only 20-30% parts of code were ported (not copied) so if that was taken into years then MM5 would take 5 times longer to release than MM4 against MM3.
TidalWave wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:47 pm
MM5 has yet to have a release candidate so I am wondering what are the major showstoppers that are preventing this release? If all critical functionality is working and complete, isn't it time to release? Non critical bugs can be fixed in subsequent maintenance releases.
Answer is again simple. A quality base line we set is not yet archived (Usually I am one to blame). Problem is not major bugs, but as expected after RC gets released, there should be no non explainable crashes just out of sudden.
TidalWave wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:47 pm
I ask because I am a long time MediaMonkey user with a very large collection of audio files. I am anxiously awaiting moving to MM5 but do not want to risk corrupting the database that I spent so long creating in MM4.
You gave yourself an answer your question. I am thinking the same, as my library is statistical memory lane collection of past 14+ years 120k+ tracks, 7k+ Playlists,... so I really would not like to screw that for myself either. That said, as respect to our users and us we do not want to be blamed or to regret something just because we are also exited and anxious eg. better take baby steps and be ready to fall on ass than start running and fell on the face.
TidalWave wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:47 pm
I have attempted to search Mantis for open issues and filtered them by block and crash for 5.0 that are unresolved. There are no unresolved issues with the severity of Block and only a few Crash remain.
Unfortunately I see lots more than you.
[quote=TidalWave post_id=459696 time=1561848476 user_id=103300]
This is not intended to be a hate post so please do not take it as such.
[/quote] Understood.
[quote=TidalWave post_id=459696 time=1561848476 user_id=103300]
I am curious what work is left to be done on MediaMonkey 5 before it can be released. Each week it seems there is a new build with 15-25 fixes. This has been going on for close to 3 years (12/20/16 - present). I looked at the development of MediaMonkey 4 and it entered beta on 12/24/2010 and was officially released on 11/15/2011 after many rounds of beta builds and 5 release candidates.
[/quote]Answer is simple MM4 was major upgrade from MMW3 in terms of handling and synchronization and still >80% of code was pre-existing and developed over 8+ years, but MM5 is complete rewrite of MediaMonkey from 0 Bytes and only 20-30% parts of code were ported (not copied) so if that was taken into years then MM5 would take 5 times longer to release than MM4 against MM3.
[quote=TidalWave post_id=459696 time=1561848476 user_id=103300]
MM5 has yet to have a release candidate so I am wondering what are the major showstoppers that are preventing this release? If all critical functionality is working and complete, isn't it time to release? Non critical bugs can be fixed in subsequent maintenance releases.
[/quote]Answer is again simple. A quality base line we set is not yet archived (Usually I am one to blame). Problem is not major bugs, but as expected after RC gets released, there should be no non explainable crashes just out of sudden.
[quote=TidalWave post_id=459696 time=1561848476 user_id=103300]
I ask because I am a long time MediaMonkey user with a very large collection of audio files. I am anxiously awaiting moving to MM5 but do not want to risk corrupting the database that I spent so long creating in MM4.
[/quote]You gave yourself an answer your question. I am thinking the same, as my library is statistical memory lane collection of past 14+ years 120k+ tracks, 7k+ Playlists,... so I really would not like to screw that for myself either. That said, as respect to our users and us we do not want to be blamed or to regret something just because we are also exited and anxious eg. better take baby steps and be ready to fall on ass than start running and fell on the face.
[quote=TidalWave post_id=459696 time=1561848476 user_id=103300]
I have attempted to search Mantis for open issues and filtered them by block and crash for 5.0 that are unresolved. There are no unresolved issues with the severity of Block and only a few Crash remain.
[/quote]Unfortunately I see lots more than you.