jiri wrote:We definitely don't want to make MM5 dumbed down, but it should be easier to use than MM4, even for an average user. So, in case you miss anything anywhere, we'd love to hear about it.
dtsig wrote: one place it is dumbing down is the grid. To me the grid view is the most important. All the data All the time
I think that the main thing that MM5 is "missing" is grid facilities, especially for those of us who are album-focused.
This MM4 grid facility (nearly) has it all IMO
1. an immersive (good size thumb) album-focused grid
2. custom filters with re sizable lists. I can scan any list to see what is in the grid, and can easily zero the grid into a subset
3. facility to sort and segment the grid into groups .... the one thing where the MM4 facility disappoints is that there is no way to turn sorting|grouping off, and the sort|grouping options are not customisable (ie. cannot add to, or change the sorting|grouping attributes offered) ... the only way that it worked well for me is that I have all my tracks rated to 0, so the Rating column gave me an ungrouped display. .... this one thing that I had hoped MM5 would improve upon, ie. grouping on|off, and facility to customise those options ... instead the whole facility got removed ... disappointed
Those are the facilities I want when browsing the albums in my collection, or one of my custom indices.
In MM5 I just get this ... ie. no browsable list (other than the album list in the Media Tree). ... no sorting and no grouping either
If I try to use the Media Tree to achieve something similar ... say browse genres in the custom filer, I get this ... ie lots of clicking ... I am not sure what I was going to get to see due to a bug, but it was too much clicking anyway
The new filter thing good for searching, and was a worthwhile addition as goes across all displays, but is too clunky for browsing.
MM5 is a backwards step for album-focused people IMO
* the album grid is dumbed-down, with no sorting, no grouping nor filtering
* no Show Art & Details display ... ie. an album-focused grid display, but an all-in-one where I can also *browse* the albums, with track details, and with a hotspot (the "summary" cell) where I can select the album as a group for setting whole album Properties, or for drag and drop
The nice new inline album display does some of this, but it isn't a browse ... ie. I need to click on each album, one at a time, to see the album tracks, so I identify what I am browsing for
This was better
[quote="jiri"]We definitely don't want to make MM5 dumbed down, but it should be easier to use than MM4, even for an average user. So, in case you miss anything anywhere, we'd love to hear about it.[/quote]
[quote="dtsig"] one place it is dumbing down is the grid. To me the grid view is the most important. All the data All the time :)[/quote]
I think that the main thing that MM5 is "missing" is grid facilities, especially for those of us who are album-focused.
This MM4 grid facility (nearly) has it all IMO
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104861308/MM5-f.png[/img]
1. an immersive (good size thumb) album-focused grid
2. custom filters with re sizable lists. I can scan any list to see what is in the grid, and can easily zero the grid into a subset
3. facility to sort and segment the grid into groups .... the one thing where the MM4 facility disappoints is that there is no way to turn sorting|grouping off, and the sort|grouping options are not customisable (ie. cannot add to, or change the sorting|grouping attributes offered) ... the only way that it worked well for me is that I have all my tracks rated to 0, so the Rating column gave me an ungrouped display. .... this one thing that I had hoped MM5 would improve upon, ie. grouping on|off, and facility to customise those options ... instead the whole facility got removed ... disappointed
Those are the facilities I want when browsing the albums in my collection, or one of my custom indices.
In MM5 I just get this ... ie. no browsable list (other than the album list in the Media Tree). ... no sorting and no grouping either
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104861308/MM5-b.png[/img]
If I try to use the Media Tree to achieve something similar ... say browse genres in the custom filer, I get this ... ie lots of clicking ... I am not sure what I was going to get to see due to a bug, but it was too much clicking anyway
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104861308/MM5-c.png[/img]
The new filter thing good for searching, and was a worthwhile addition as goes across all displays, but is too clunky for browsing.
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104861308/MM5-d.png[/img]
MM5 is a backwards step for album-focused people IMO
* the album grid is dumbed-down, with no sorting, no grouping nor filtering
* no Show Art & Details display ... ie. an album-focused grid display, but an all-in-one where I can also *browse* the albums, with track details, and with a hotspot (the "summary" cell) where I can select the album as a group for setting whole album Properties, or for drag and drop
The nice new inline album display does some of this, but it isn't a browse ... ie. I need to click on each album, one at a time, to see the album tracks, so I identify what I am browsing for
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104861308/MM5-e.png[/img]
This was better
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104861308/MM5-f.png[/img]