by Gyroscope » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:26 am
MediaMonkey 4.0.2.1462
Windows 7 64 bit
Yesterday, for grins, I tried to construct Goldfrapp's new "The Singles" greatest hits collection from the existing Goldfrapp albums I already have. What a mistake.
I went into a Goldfrapp album, copied a track to go onto the new greatest hits using ctrl-c, pasted it into another Goldfrapp album, just so I could duplicate the track, then changed the album of the newly copied track to "The Singles". Et voila I have created a holder for the album, and I can then continue picking up other tracks just with copy and paste, copy in the existing album, paste under the "The Singles" node.
However after copying a few tracks I noticed that the original albums were now missing tracks. Eh?
It transpires that "copy" doesn't appear to copy, it cuts. By this time I had already deleted a couple of erroneously "copied" tracks. Only they hadn't been copied, they had been moved. So I've lost data.
I've experimented with a basic
The Artist
Album 1
Album 1 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 1 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2
Album 2 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
structure created with mp3tag, and confirmed that copy and paste actually cuts and pastes, using "copy" from either the context menu or the ctrl-c shortcut. "Copy" from one album to the other deletes the source.
Thank goodness I've taken a backup, heh?
OK, so I want to reset all the damage done, and restore from backup. And I have to be REALLY, REALLY careful. It would seem logical to go to the "Album Artist" node, select "Goldfrapp" and hit delete, right? However there is a longstanding bug at play here. If I hit delete on the "Goldfrapp" node it will delete all tracks with an *artist* of "Goldfrapp", not the *album artist*, so any appearances on complilations, film soundtracks, DJ mixes all get nuked.
Again I've experimented with a basic structure of
The Artist
Album 1
Album 1 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 1 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2
Album 2 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Compliation Arist
The Compilation
Compilation Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: Compliation Artist)
Hit delete on Album Artist -> The Artist and you are indeed warned that you're about to delete 5 files (not the 4 files under "The Artist") - if you go ahead MM really will go ahead and delete everything with an Artist (as opposed to Album Artist) of "The Artist".
So the bug here is that deleting an album artist node actually deletes by artist.
OK, so I carefully delete Goldfrapp album-by-album. I copy the various Goldfrapp data from backup into my usual dropbox for MM, hit "Add/Rescan" and MM duly moves all the data back into my library. Then I run into the final annoyance, which I know has already been reported but it's driving me mad.
I keep all album art as folder.jpg in the directory of the album. MM just moved across all the flac files and the folder.jpg too, but when I come to add the folder.jpg to the album as album art (why doesn't it do this automatically? I think it used to? can't prove anything though), instead of using the file in-situ like MM 3 used to, it copies the damned thing to folder_2.jpg. So I have to intervene manually, move the folder.jpg somewhere else, then re-add it and it gets moved back in. For every single album. Grr.
Sorry if I sound entitled and ranty, but I've been a long-time lifetime gold license holder and evangelist for MediaMonkey. Maybe the cut/copy thing is intentional, but for me it was catastrophic. And when I find my normal use of MediaMonkey so precarious as I tiptoe around bug after bug, well, I'd like something smaller and more reliable; video, UPNP, collections, all useless to me - a rock-solid music file management program is what I want.
Cheers,
/g
MediaMonkey 4.0.2.1462
Windows 7 64 bit
Yesterday, for grins, I tried to construct Goldfrapp's new "The Singles" greatest hits collection from the existing Goldfrapp albums I already have. What a mistake.
I went into a Goldfrapp album, copied a track to go onto the new greatest hits using ctrl-c, pasted it into another Goldfrapp album, just so I could duplicate the track, then changed the album of the newly copied track to "The Singles". Et voila I have created a holder for the album, and I can then continue picking up other tracks just with copy and paste, copy in the existing album, paste under the "The Singles" node.
However after copying a few tracks I noticed that the original albums were now missing tracks. Eh?
It transpires that "copy" doesn't appear to copy, it cuts. By this time I had already deleted a couple of erroneously "copied" tracks. Only they hadn't been copied, they had been moved. So I've lost data.
I've experimented with a basic
The Artist
Album 1
Album 1 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 1 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2
Album 2 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
structure created with mp3tag, and confirmed that [b]copy and paste actually cuts and pastes[/b], using "copy" from either the context menu or the ctrl-c shortcut. "Copy" from one album to the other deletes the source.
Thank goodness I've taken a backup, heh?
OK, so I want to reset all the damage done, and restore from backup. And I have to be REALLY, REALLY careful. It would seem logical to go to the "Album Artist" node, select "Goldfrapp" and hit delete, right? However there is a longstanding bug at play here. If I hit delete on the "Goldfrapp" node it will delete all tracks with an *artist* of "Goldfrapp", not the *album artist*, so any appearances on complilations, film soundtracks, DJ mixes all get nuked.
Again I've experimented with a basic structure of
The Artist
Album 1
Album 1 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 1 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2
Album 2 Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Album 2 Track 2 (artist: The Artist, album artist: The Artist)
Compliation Arist
The Compilation
Compilation Track 1 (artist: The Artist, album artist: Compliation Artist)
Hit delete on Album Artist -> The Artist and you are indeed warned that you're about to delete 5 files (not the 4 files under "The Artist") - if you go ahead MM really will go ahead and delete everything with an Artist (as opposed to Album Artist) of "The Artist".
So the bug here is that [b]deleting an album artist node actually deletes by artist[/b].
OK, so I carefully delete Goldfrapp album-by-album. I copy the various Goldfrapp data from backup into my usual dropbox for MM, hit "Add/Rescan" and MM duly moves all the data back into my library. Then I run into the final annoyance, which I know has already been reported but it's driving me mad.
I keep all album art as folder.jpg in the directory of the album. MM just moved across all the flac files and the folder.jpg too, but when I come to add the folder.jpg to the album as album art (why doesn't it do this automatically? I think it used to? can't prove anything though), instead of using the file in-situ like MM 3 used to, it [b]copies the damned thing to folder_2.jpg[/b]. So I have to intervene manually, move the folder.jpg somewhere else, then re-add it and it gets moved back in. For every single album. Grr.
Sorry if I sound entitled and ranty, but I've been a long-time lifetime gold license holder and evangelist for MediaMonkey. Maybe the cut/copy thing is intentional, but for me it was catastrophic. And when I find my normal use of MediaMonkey so precarious as I tiptoe around bug after bug, well, I'd like something smaller and more reliable; video, UPNP, collections, all useless to me - a rock-solid music file management program is what I want.
Cheers,
/g