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1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:46 am
by chrisjj
If I set the rating of a WMA track in Now Playing, MM writes a "SBD/Rating" attribute - this fails to accord with the Help "table of all properties stored in the Library vs. which properties are stored in Tags."

Tracked at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5977

Marked Fixed.

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA --------

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:27 pm
by Lowlander
So, MediaMonkey uses the rating field as the WMA standard set it and now it's not good? Seems to me that that just the Help needs to be updated.

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA --------

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:18 pm
by chrisjj
> So, MediaMonkey uses the rating field as the WMA standard

Uh?? There's no mention of this SBD/Rating attribute there.

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA --------

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:27 am
by jiri
'SDB/Rating' is necessary in order to store more precise rating that just full stars (i.e. half-stars). For compatibility reasons this can't be done in the WM/SharedUserRating attribute.

Jiri

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA --------

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:45 am
by chrisjj
Thanks. If you have an accurate table of properties used by MM, it would useful if you would publish it for users.

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:19 pm
by chrisjj
chrisjj wrote:Tracked at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5977

Marked Fixed.
Though marked fixed, and the Help now says:
WMA Rating
Yes [full stars] (SharedUserRating)
Non standard [Half-stars] (SDB/Rating)
the issue remains for the case of zero stars. For zero stars MM sets the standard property WM/SharedUserRating to one - the same at it sets for one star. This non-standard behaviour causes interoperability failure with other apps:

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Also it sets the non-standard SDB/Rating, which it should not, since it is not a half-star value

Tracked at:
Rating zero stars sets incorrect standard tag property: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12159
Rating zero stars sets incorrectly adds a non-standard tag property http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12161

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:39 am
by chrisjj
chrisjj wrote:the issue remains for the case of zero stars.
Reported fixed at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12159

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:04 am
by chrisjj
chrisjj wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:19 pm Rating zero stars sets incorrect standard tag property: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12159
Marked fixed. Thanks.
chrisjj wrote: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:19 pmRating zero stars sets incorrectly adds a non-standard tag property http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=12161
Eight years later, this still shows unassigned and open.

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:38 am
by jiri
Eight years later, this still shows unassigned and open.
Right, closed now as there doesn't seem to be any change needed.

Thanks,
Jiri

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:42 am
by chrisjj
jiri wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:38 am Right, closed now
I now see "Resolution no change required", surprisingly.
jiri wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:38 amas there doesn't seem to be any change needed.
What makes you think no change is needed?

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:45 am
by jiri
I tried to explain in Mantis. The documentation doesn't state that non-standard tags aren't present when standard tags are, so from my point of view it's correctly documented. Whether it's good from user's perspective, I guess it depends on use case.

Jiri

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:15 am
by chrisjj
jiri wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:45 am I tried to explain in Mantis.
Thanks. Just saw your Mantis comment that is subsequent to mine above. I'll reply there when my Mantis access is restored.

Re: 1256 Bogus rating attribute in WMA [#5977]

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:43 am
by chrisjj