Auto-tag tracks out of order [#19936]

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Rob_S
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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There has not been much activity on any topics last couple of days. Maybe Easter holiday, or something.

Or maybe everyone is hoping somebody else might know something :)
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Anyone?

Did I really pay for the Gold version of this application only to get no answer to a simple question like this?
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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No, Auto-Tag does not sort, nor provide sorting options. It uses the same sort of the selected files in MediaMonkey itself. So if selected files aren't sorted on Track#, it won't show sorted in Auto-Tag.

Sorting on Album or Track# in the main window should get you the desired sort in Auto-Tag too.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Autotag does not respect main window sort order for me.

http://rone.ca/dlfiles/Autotag%20sort%20Capture.JPG

It would certainly make sense to me that it should be able to display tracks by track number when one is autotagging an album, more difficult particularly if the track numbers are not yet in the database, having just been found by autotag...

Also interesting to note what autotag found, for my already correctly tagged album
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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The screenshot seems to show after Auto-Tag has done the lookup, which does re-order things based on the tag changes.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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The screenshot I first linked appears to show that Auto-tag did not in my case.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Unfortunately that can't be verified based on the screenshot. It lacks the underlying file selection made in the main window.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Mine shows both together, and yes, the order in the autotag window did change after the lookup.

It appears there is a built-in unchangeable sort order album ascending, album artist ascending, which makes little sense

However, It did not respect the order of the selected files in the main window to start with. #9 - Goodnight irene appears at the top when it opens
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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@Lowlander -- is there some other evidence you need?

Can we get this fixed?
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Yes, testing shows it works as expected and evidence provided doesn't show it doesn't.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Come on, Lowlander, you know what we are looking for.

Feature request - ability to sort within autotag dialog by album primary and track number secondary or maybe also simply by track number.

Neither is possible at this time.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Hang on, it works as expected when the Auto-Tag track order is out of order and is not respect the order of the selected files in the main window to start with?

Please explain.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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We've asked for evidence of this pre-lookup. Post-lookup there are new values changing the sort.
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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Evidence as requested:

Run autotag with internet disconnected so lookup does not occur. Note tracks in main window are in track number order, autotag is sorted by album/album artist which results in random sort as these existing tags are all identical.

http://rone.ca/dlfiles/Autotag%20pre-lo ... apture.JPG

So the point remains we would like the option to sort by track number
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Re: Auto-tag tracks out of order

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ps Just tried it in V5.1 alpha and no change as far as I can see.

And by the way the after lookup built-in sort order is not even correct by album primary as it has subgroups from the same album see my first image above

ie several from Greatest hits, then from The unicorn, then more from Greatest hits
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