Case & Leading Zero Fixer 1.4.2 (2008-04-15)

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:29 am

ok will try it now

of course the best way is still to make the script work with Greek alphabet like latin... (any help I can give of course I will give if requested)

Bex · Post by **Bex** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:34 am

Yes, you could try to add Greek vowels to the piece of code below:

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vowels.pattern = "[AEIOUY" & ChrW(192) & "-" & ChrW(601) & "]"

Let us know how it goes!

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:38 am

Although I come from a programmer background (back in the ancient years), I am not sure where I should add the vowel list in that code line... check the other thread (inconsistencies) and you see the whole Greek alphabet... vowels are those letters that also come in "punctuated" version.

So how would this line become?

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:43 am

vowels.ignoreCase = False alone, doesn't help

I probably need to edit the vowel list too?

I dunno.

Bex · Post by **Bex** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:52 am

NLS wrote:vowels.ignoreCase = False alone, doesn't help

I probably need to edit the vowel list too?

I dunno.

Did you restart MM?

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:55 am

of course

Bex · Post by **Bex** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:07 am

Then I don't know...

It would be great if you could try to study the script and figure how to change the code so it works with Greek letters. I'm sure a lot of your fellow countrymen would appreciate it.

It's a very difficult task for me to accomplish...

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:10 am

I will try. I was never good with other people's code.

I am not sure how would this line help me anyway since probably the program doesn't know if the word in question has vowels, consonants or whatever.

The one thing you could help really (since you have already worked with the script) is to make it ignore non-latin words (anything outside a-z, A-Z).

That would be preferable for now.

Bex · Post by **Bex** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:19 am

Actually, I haven't touched the part of the script which handles the logic of setting case. So I don't know how it works exactly...

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:21 am

Oups... deadlock.

I will really try to look into it.
But help is (VERY VERY VERY) welcome at this point.

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:44 am

so anybody know what this line means?

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isForeignPref.pattern = "^([dl]|dell)['`]"  ' handle l', d' and dell'

(seems there is some code that supposedly handles non-latin alphabet?)

Bex · Post by **Bex** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:45 pm

I believe the solution lies in getting these rows to consider Greek letters, but I'm not sure:

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alphaNum.pattern = "['`´A-Za-z0-9" & ChrW(192) & "-" & ChrW(65276) & "]"
vowels.pattern = "[AEIOUY" & ChrW(192) & "-" & ChrW(601) & "]"

MoDementia · Post by **MoDementia** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:56 pm

The more I think about this the less it seems possible with a relatively easy solution.

In the mean time I would hope that there would be a way to create 2 playlists 1 with greek letteres and one without
and run the script on the non greek list for now.

Unless you run a greek version of MM the functions Ucase() and Lcase() won't know what the lower and upper case versions are.

So running it in english the best we can hope for is to ignore greek letters which is what the playlists will do

If this is infact the correct UCase() for these then maybe there is some hope

αλεξίου, χάρις - δι' ευχών (live)

Now the program does this:

ΑΛΕΞΊΟΥ, ΧΆΡΙΣ - ΔΙ' ΕΥΧΏΝ (Live)

When it should do it like that:

Αλεξίου, Χάρις - Δι' Ευχών (Live)
(best case scenario)

or AT LEAST (worse case scenario) do it like that:

ΑΛΕΞΙΟΥ, ΧΑΡΙΣ - ΔΙ' ΕΥΧΩΝ (Live)

These look pretty damn close so.... but that maybe due to the forum limitations
ΑΛΕΞΊΟΥ, ΧΆΡΙΣ - ΔΙ' ΕΥΧΏΝ (Live)
ΑΛΕΞΙΟΥ, ΧΑΡΙΣ - ΔΙ' ΕΥΧΩΝ (Live)

NLS · Post by **NLS** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:41 am

MoDementia they are visually close but the first is really (very) wrong.

Notice the dot before the I in first word and before A in the second and after X in the last one. Those are punctuation marks - never used in capitals

(...then someone would ask, why Windows and UNICODE implements it... well there is a reason but out of the scope of this thread, except if you want me to tell you hehehe).

You think the "Greek" version of MM would treat Greek differently? I doubt.

To the point:

YES THIS IS THE CORRECT UCASE (sorry if I confused you before)

BUT

...in Greek you have to remove punctuation if you will write all caps!
(so for example Ύ = Y and Ϋ = Y after UCase)

BUT

...my whole point is to NOT UCASE the Greek words (if it not the choice of the user that is).

Since manipulating can be (a bit) complex, better ignore them.

I expect about the same for all other non-basic-latin alphabets (and wonder why this haven't come up before), so the best would be to define a string range of a-z and A-Z for manipulation and ignore everything else.

Bex · Post by **Bex** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:27 am

Yes this seems to be a bit tricky. I'll try to take a look when I get the time..