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Onweerwolf
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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by Onweerwolf » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:22 pm

I don't care for floating players personally. I also don't care for photo's in my mediaplayer either. I just want it to look slim, have everything look integrated with each other. I want to be able to move everything around until it fits my preference. I want to be able to resize everything. I don't want menu buttons or lines that have nu function. I want the option to have each track in the now playing list show a little thumbnail of it's artwork. I want the now playing list to center focus on the track that is playing instead of it being the last one visible so i always have to scroll to see what's coming up. Etc., etc. etc. Basically I would love for MM to be able to look like Foobar can look and be as customizable as that program as well. Currently it reminds me of a brushed up mix between MusicMatch and Windows Media Player.

Still, I'll take MM's functionality over any other player's looks. It would be nice to have both though. Especially since we do have some skinning wizards present in the community who I'm sure would love to try their hands on a better skinning engine.
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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by Dreadlau » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:11 pm

Onweerwolf wrote:I don't care for floating players personally. I also don't care for photo's in my mediaplayer either. I just want it to look slim, have everything look integrated with each other. I want to be able to move everything around until it fits my preference. I want to be able to resize everything. I don't want menu buttons or lines that have nu function. I want the option to have each track in the now playing list show a little thumbnail of it's artwork. I want the now playing list to center focus on the track that is playing instead of it being the last one visible so i always have to scroll to see what's coming up. Etc., etc. etc.

Wow. That could have been me who wrote that. I strongly agree with everything you just said.
Onweerwolf wrote: Still, I'll take MM's functionality over any other player's looks. It would be nice to have both though. Especially since we do have some skinning wizards present in the community who I'm sure would love to try their hands on a better skinning engine.
My impression too.
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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by Goodog » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:55 am

@onweerwolf and dreadlau and rovingcowboy

I hear what you are all saying. I don't think that iTunes is better than MM but I also don't think that MM is any better than iTunes and, as I use all the iDevices (iPod, iPhone, iPad and AppleTV) and I wanted to change over to a Mac, iTunes is clearly the way to go for me. I know it has its 'little ways' and there are things that it does that seems to annoy everybody that uses it but it can be tamed and it has many plug-ins that enhance its functionality too. Also it looks the part and I don't mean that in a superficial way, I mean it presents the data it holds in a meaningful and easy to understand and use way for all the different types of file it can handle and, simply put, it handles all the file types I use from music to books and it controls and updates my devices and so on and so on....and has already be stated on this thread, even if you want to use MM, if you have any iDevices you still have to have iTunes installed for MM to work. I wanted MM4 to be updated with a 'native' skin so that it looked like a modern application but the devs decided not to do that, even though they promised all along that it would be updated and I felt let down by that. They also promised that there would be an updated skinning engine and there isn't, that's a minor detail as far as I'm concerned but still....it means that, even if the skinners wanted to provide the type of skins I'm talking about, they can't.
Anyway, I've made the move to a Mac now and I can't see that I would ever run Windows again for any reason. The Mac is a great piece of kit and OS X is everything Windows wishes it was and that's only going to get better.

I wish you all well and I hope you get the things you want in MM but I think you'll have a long wait...and that's not for me.

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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by Onweerwolf » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:20 am

Well, for starters iTunes is unusable for me because of how it works with smart playlists, which are updated each time a track's playcount/last played info is updated (because it was played). This means, that for large libraries with lots of autoplaylists the resources demanded are so huge that iTunes takes up 100% of my processor for 30-50 seconds each time a track has finished playing. At least that was how it was shortly before I migrated to MM. Now I realize that this problem only comes for people with a lot of smart playlists and not everyone will have as much as me, but still, it's a flaw in the design of the software that presents itself when power using it. That is the difference between iTunes and MM. MM was designed with power users in mind. It is specifically for large libraries.

Also, i don't need to have iTunes installed to sync my iPods. Not sure about other iDevices but my iPods work fine.

And another thing; if you have a problem or request for MM you can go ahead and post it in our forum and if your issue is serious and makes sense, it will eventually be addressed even to the point of having one-on-one communications with developers. That is something that will never happen with iTunes, certainly not on the scale it happens with MM. It's a comforting feeling to have, honestly and it shows that the peeps behind MM are dedicated to their software and it's users. In that respect I also do believe that they will eventually change the skinning engine.

As for plugins, unless lots have been made in the past two years I don't think they really compare with MM's scripting community. I could be wrong but I don't believe powerful stuff like Monkeyrok and Magic Nodes are available for iTunes.
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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by sirandar » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:21 pm

Goodog wrote:I debated for a while about the best place to post this and decided that this particular thread is about the best. There have been a number of posts from people like n49o7 and the starter of this thread expressing their dissapointment, or worse, about MM and how it could have done so much more. My opinion sides with these guys, MM had the oppotunity to bring the application up to date and improve so many things about it but the developers, although they paid a little lip service to this forum, seem to have largely ignored any suggestions made. And as for the skins....well, aside form a very, very few I find them more than a bit amatuerish and, in some case, more than bit cartoonish...my opinion I realise but, for me that's all that matters...
There's also a real trend toward hatred of all things Apple in this forum and all I can say about thatis grow up and stop being such fan boys for MM. If you don't want to use a piece of software then just don't but don't tell me MM is the greatest thing ever because it really isn't. I gave it every chance to impress me and, while it does indeed do some things very well, it's only some thing and the thing it doesn't do well it really sucks at.

All a moot point for me now anyway, I have decided that MM won't be my music handler of choice....
I hear you ... but I disagree ..... Bling dosen't do much for me and MM delivers whats important to me without forcing me to do anything... but MM isn't perfect either.

PS DreadM has some really lovely skins that are as good as anyone could want ..... that there are some ugly ones available shouldn't offend you much .... other people may have different tastes ...... live and let live ....
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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by OYOY » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:12 pm

Poxy Itunes, took 2 days just to get a response from Istore & I've given up trying to create an account, just says accessing IStore for 5 mins then does bugger all. :evil: :evil:

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Re: What a load of rubbish

Post by windcrest77 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:31 pm

Goodog wrote:@onweerwolf and dreadlau and rovingcowboy

I hear what you are all saying. I don't think that iTunes is better than MM but I also don't think that MM is any better than iTunes and, as I use all the iDevices (iPod, iPhone, iPad and AppleTV) and I wanted to change over to a Mac, iTunes is clearly the way to go for me. I know it has its 'little ways' and there are things that it does that seems to annoy everybody that uses it but it can be tamed and it has many plug-ins that enhance its functionality too. Also it looks the part and I don't mean that in a superficial way, I mean it presents the data it holds in a meaningful and easy to understand and use way for all the different types of file it can handle and, simply put, it handles all the file types I use from music to books and it controls and updates my devices and so on and so on....and has already be stated on this thread, even if you want to use MM, if you have any iDevices you still have to have iTunes installed for MM to work. I wanted MM4 to be updated with a 'native' skin so that it looked like a modern application but the devs decided not to do that, even though they promised all along that it would be updated and I felt let down by that. They also promised that there would be an updated skinning engine and there isn't, that's a minor detail as far as I'm concerned but still....it means that, even if the skinners wanted to provide the type of skins I'm talking about, they can't.
Anyway, I've made the move to a Mac now and I can't see that I would ever run Windows again for any reason. The Mac is a great piece of kit and OS X is everything Windows wishes it was and that's only going to get better.

I wish you all well and I hope you get the things you want in MM but I think you'll have a long wait...and that's not for me.
Does iTunes play flac, ape, wma (lossless), wma (pro) and wavepack files? These are the formats I use, it was my understanding that iTunes (and iPods) have a problem playing these formats.

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