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MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files [#16295] [#16287]

Post by dypsis » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:20 pm

I don't have many video files.
The vast majority of my music is audio.

But each and every time I open MM5, it generates thumbnails for my video files.
Does this process have to be repeated every time? I haven't added any new video files in a very long time.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by Barry4679 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:40 am

In the meantime, have you tried to see if the options at Tools|Library|MetadataLookup also affect art download for video files?

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dypsis » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:02 am

Nothing is selected in: Tools > Options > Library > Metadata Lookup.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by Ludek » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:35 am

How long is that process of generating thumbnails after startup?
Probably it fails to generate them and thus it re-tries the generation upon the next startup?
Ideally if you could generate debug log (item 4b here: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... 30&t=86643 ) so that we could see more.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dypsis » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:52 pm

Hi Ludek.

The process probably takes about a minute.

I have generated DebugView log and sent you a PM with the link.

As a side issue that I think may be related.
If I delete an audio track, then start MM, it doesn't remove the track it automatically. I have to remove it manually.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dtsig » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:45 pm

dypsis wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:52 pm
As a side issue that I think may be related.
If I delete an audio track, then start MM, it doesn't remove the track it automatically. I have to remove it manually.
If you make any modifications to files (delete, add ...) outside of MM it will never see it by itself. Deleting a file MM will only mark it as unusable once it hits it
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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dypsis » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:06 pm

dtsig wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:45 pm
dypsis wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:52 pm
As a side issue that I think may be related.
If I delete an audio track, then start MM, it doesn't remove the track it automatically. I have to remove it manually.
If you make any modifications to files (delete, add ...) outside of MM it will never see it by itself. Deleting a file MM will only mark it as unusable once it hits it
Both MM4 and MM5 have the option in the Library settings to "Remove Unavailable Items".
Another player that I sometimes use such as MusicBee also has this feature, and it works every time with the same library.
MusicBee settings are at: Edit > Edit Preferences > Library > Music Library: On startup, check for updated or missing files.

AIMP also has this feature, and it also works with my library.
AIMP setting is found at Music Library > File Monitoring > Settings: Delete non-existing files from database.

The reason that I am comparing other players is not to say one is better than the other.
The reason I am doing it is to show that there is nothing wrong with my hard drive or permissions or file attributes.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by Ludek » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:13 am

Hi,
the log confirmed my speculation that MM is trying to repeatedly generate thumbs for video files for which it always fails to generate thumbs.
I replied your PM and asked for the concrete files to analyze.

Nevertheless I guess that such a files should be skipped in the next try, added as: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=16287

As for the files deleted outside of MediaMonkey. Yes, if you delete or move them outside of MediaMonkey then the database entries remains and you can find them in the Files to Edit > Deadlinks node (and you can delete them there once and forever). Or simply delete them directly using MediaMonkey to remove them from MM library too.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dypsis » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:02 pm

Ludek wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:13 am
As for the files deleted outside of MediaMonkey. Yes, if you delete or move them outside of MediaMonkey then the database entries remains and you can find them in the Files to Edit > Deadlinks node (and you can delete them there once and forever). Or simply delete them directly using MediaMonkey to remove them from MM library too.
So the option in the Library settings to "Remove Unavailable Items" doesn't work in MM5?
It works on my other computer with MM4. :-?

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dypsis » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:05 pm

Ludek wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:13 am
Hi,
the log confirmed my speculation that MM is trying to repeatedly generate thumbs for video files for which it always fails to generate thumbs.
I replied your PM and asked for the concrete files to analyze.

Nevertheless I guess that such a files should be skipped in the next try, added as: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=16287
Hi Ludek.
I have sent you a PM with the link 2 troublesome videos. 👍

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by Ludek » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:32 am

dypsis wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:02 pm
So the option in the Library settings to "Remove Unavailable Items" doesn't work in MM5?
It works on my other computer with MM4. :-?
It used to work, but only for monitored folders, are you sure that the folder is monitored?
i.e. in menu Add/Rescan
Is the folder there and with the column "Schedule" set to "Continuously" or "At startup" ?

EDIT: I have just tested and the "Remove Unavailable Items" option works fine for me here in MM5 (tested on folder with Schedule = "Continuously")

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by dypsis » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:21 pm

I have on got it set to "At Startup".
But it should work also that way. As I said, it does on my other computer with MM4.



I can't remember why right now, but "Continuously" can cause issues.

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Re: MM5 Keeps Generating Thumbnails For Video Files

Post by Ludek » Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:30 am

OK, testing with "At startup" and you seem to be right that it does not work, will be fixed as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=16295

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