How Google Plays Ball

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How Google Plays Ball

Postby sirandar » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:18 pm

With Mediamonkey for Android, on my phone I used to be able to say "OK Google" then "Play Fleeetwood Mac Rumors" and it would actually play the right song using MMA.

Because I am curious I tested it quite extensively and although it was far from perfect, it was quite accurate and useful.

Google consciously and with deliberation took this 3rd party app interaction away ..... (yes I complained about it to them, yes they sometimes do listen, no they won't this time)

Google decided that this new style of doing is far far to valuable to just give away and MediaMonkey was kicked off the band wagon ....

When I say "OK Google" "play Fleeetwood Mac Rumors", the friendly Google voice now says "Your default music provider hasn't been set up... click here to set up..."

Guess what ..... only Google Play Music and Spotify are on the list of approved music apps with no ability to add more.

Google's AI has finally reached critical mass and is something they are going to get even richer on..... Cortana is a joke = The prompt on Cortana suggests to ask "Whats the square root of 256" and can't even understand when you ask that question. Ask it the time and it gives it in the wrong time zone even when your PC is set correctly for time zone ....

Amazingly and sadly, with Google Android I can dictate long complex paragraphs accurately and even fix errors ..... It is showing some signs it "understands" what I am saying....

It is obviously the future ..... but I think people who are inviting this into their homes are not really thinking about the implications ......

If MediaMonkey wants in on the Google AI revolution ..... now is the time .... the price is bound to escalate to get on board...
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Re: How Google Plays Ball

Postby jiri » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:00 am

Yes, this is very unfortunate. It's documented at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=14570 and it seems that currently the only way is to try to request the integration via:

Google App
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Re: How Google Plays Ball

Postby sirandar » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:23 pm

jiri wrote:Yes, this is very unfortunate. It's documented at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=14570 and it seems that currently the only way is to try to request the integration via:

Google App
Menu button > Send feedback

Jiri


Hi Jiri

If you are a MM dev it would be useful to know how much Google wants to charge your to get in on Google Voice AI.
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Re: How Google Plays Ball

Postby sirandar » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:31 pm

An interesting development that further shows how Google plays ball .....

After an update you can no longer say "OK Google" and then say Play "Fleetwood Mac Dreams" and have Google play the right song with MMA (Mediamonkey Android). MMA is not on Googles approved list. This used to work perfectly with MMA before the update.

However if when playing a song with MMA you ask "OK Google, What song is currently playing?" Google Android will absolutely blow you away with the quality of its annunciation of the Artist and Song Title. Even classical pieces and people's names. It is uncanny. Google know exactly what song MMA is playing and can say it perfectly.

Google now speaks better English than many human beings.....

The downside is that Google is obviously secretly listening to every track played with MMA and building a database, probably in an anonymous manner.

So Google uses MMA for demographics on what people are listening to, but doesn't let voice commands work with MMA ...... pretty bad behavior IMO. Since probably many Mediamonkey users have the highest quality music libraries on the planet it is doubly bad behavior on Google part.
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