Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks [#14315]

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Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks [#14315]

Postby Atelidae » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:00 pm

Hi folks,

I do have the following problem with MMA:
When I play audiobook files, the current playing progress is saved, which is great. However, when I want to listen to the audiobook from a previous file, and are coming to the bookmarked file, the playback starts at the point I have stopped listening and not at the beginning.
In the options I didn't find a way to change this behaviour.

Thank You

Sincerely,
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Re: Feature: Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks

Postby rusty » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:37 am

Interesting idea. Though I see potential for confusion since the app would display the bookmark and yet it would be ignored.

Are you suggesting that the bookmark should be ignored anytime it isn't the first track in the Now Playing list?

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Re: Feature: Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks

Postby Atelidae » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:47 am

Hi Rusty,

Are you suggesting that the bookmark should be ignored anytime it isn't the first track in the Now Playing list?


Yes, that seems to be a nice way to tackle the problem.

Though I see potential for confusion since the app would display the bookmark and yet it would be ignored.


This could maybe be solved by adding an option in the setting dialog.
Thank you for the fast reply.

Sincerely Atelidae
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Re: Feature: Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks

Postby rusty » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:29 am

I was thinking about a possible implementation and I'm not really happy with any of the possible solutions:

1) We could add a setting for this to the playback section:
[ ] Only apply bookmarks to first track in Now Playing (applies only to the first track in NP list). But this can be problematic as bookmarks can be unexpectedly ignored if the set of tracks added to NP are bookmarked tracks from an _unrelated_ podcast or audiobook).

2) A possible alternative:
[ ] Only apply bookmarks to the first track added to Now Playing (applies only to the first track of any selected track/tracks that are added to the NP list). But although this solves the problem of adding an unrelated podcast to the NP list and unexpectedly ignoring it's bookmark, it doesn't solve the problem of bookmarks being unexpected ignored if the user adds multiple unrelated bookmarked podcasts/audiobook tracks to the NP list.

The only way to really implement this properly is for the NP list to be 'aware' of whether a track 'naturally' follows another track and if so, to ignore the bookmark.

3) Another possibility might be to use a popup "Reset bookmarks for all tracks in NP?" whenever the user presses 'Back' to reset a bookmark, but this wouldn't work well in Android Auto.

4) My last and simplest idea is to leave the current approach of pressing the Back button to reset the bookmark--it should work in all cases (incl. Android Auto), and is relatively painless, but to either:
a) add a the ability to manually 'Reset bookmarks' for a set of tracks.
b) automatically reset the bookmarks for all tracks in a 'set' once all of the bookmarks are at 100% , but leave the play counter unchanged.

Thoughts?

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Re: Feature: Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks

Postby Lowlander » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:06 am

4) MediaMonkey could ignore Bookmark if previously played File is previous track on Album. So if track 5 has a bookmark, but track 4 is played before it the Bookmark is ignored. If anything else is played before it the Bookmark is respected.
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Re: Feature: Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks

Postby Atelidae » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:39 am

Hi rusty,

rusty wrote:4) My last and simplest idea is to leave the current approach of pressing the Back button to reset the bookmark--it should work in all cases (incl. Android Auto), and is relatively painless


I have tried this approach several times but when I go back from a track with a bookmark at ca. 10% to the previous track using the back button to reset the bookmark and then get to the track with the bookmark, it starts with the bookmarked position and not at the beginning.

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Re: Feature: Enable/Disable Bookmarking of Audiobooks

Postby rusty » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:15 am

Re. failure to reset bookmark, I've added this to our todo list at:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=14315

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