How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

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Juliansdad
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How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by Juliansdad » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:01 pm

One of the main reasons that I got rid of iTunes and replaced it with MM is the effect on my PC's performance that iTunes has. Now it appears that I may need iTunes on my computer to sync my library in MM with my iPod Classic. How can I get around this?

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Re: How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by yarguy » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:43 pm

As far as I know you don't need iTunes to be running when you sync using MM so it should have no effect on your PCs performance. I believe MM just needs some of the support files. I am syncing to an old 5th gen iPod classic as I type and iTunes isn't running, though it is installed on my computer. My experience is that sometimes things get to the point where you want to restore the iPod anyway so having iTunes for the occasional reset is handy.

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Re: How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by MMFrLife » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:16 am

Juliansdad wrote:Now it appears that I may need iTunes on my computer to sync my library in MM with my iPod Classic.
The classic models don't need iTunes, others do.
In what way does it appear to need it?
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Re: How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by yarguy » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:00 pm

Unless the MM wiki is wrong, you do need iTunes - or at least some components - to sync a Classic:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.p ... _ipod_sync

But, again, it just needs to be installed, not running.

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Re: How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by Juliansdad » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:48 pm

Thanks for your tips. I switched from iTUnes to MediaMonkey for a number of reasons. One of them was that iTunes slows up my Windows PC, even when it's not running.
So if I reinstall iTunes in my PC, I have to sacrifice the PC's performance.

Perhaps I need to replace my iPod with a digital player (Fiio?) that will function effectively with MediaMonkey. Any ideas?

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Re: How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by captain paranoia » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:56 pm

I don't have iTunes installed; I hated the monstrous, megalomaniacal, cpu-gobbling bloatware when I installed it to support an iPad2 I was given.

I can get MM to talk to the iPad by installing AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi

I think... just checking processes running... yes, it's running, but sitting there doing nothing apart from taking 13.5MB.

I'm not entirely sure, because my software repository Software/Media/Apple has that and CopyTransDriversInstaller (and Bonjour.msi) in it too, and I can't remember which I actually installed...

Oh, yes: it's in the Wiki:

<quote>
For those who don’t want to install iTunes, there is a hack:

1. Download the iTunesSetup.exe (or iTunes64Setup.exe is you're using 64-bit) file
2. Rename the .exe to .msi
3. Get 7-Zip to extract only what you need from the iTunes installer archive.
4. Open up the zipped file (right click 7-zip -> Open Archive, open .rsrc directory) and extract AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi (AppleMobileDeviceSupport64.msi for 64-bit), and QuickTime.msi (Quicktime lite recommended instead)

4.1 iTunes v9.1 - In the .rsrc directory, opend the RCDATA directory and extract the CABINET file. Rename it to amds.cab, open that file again with 7Zip, and then extract the .msi files as above.

5. Install these files.
</quote>

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Re: How Do you sync MM with an iPod Classic without iTunes?

Post by Juliansdad » Mon May 23, 2016 5:34 pm

Captain, I don't know why I didn't see your March 22 post til now, but I'm sure glad that I did.
So if I'm understanding you, you're able to work around your iPad's need for iTunes installation in order to make nice with MM with the instructions you spelled out.

Are you aware if this works with a iPod Classic?

Are you able to sync your Playlists with this hack as well?

Thanks!

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