by Barry4679 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:01 am
dmcritchie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:27 pm
So the column sort choice seems to be global for the two other views. Seems like a bug, no?
Well, it is not quite "global", because each top level node has its row sort own setting. But there does seem to be just a single row sort setting for each top level node, when using List or Album&Tracks view modes. ... which is different to MM4, I agree.
I'm not sure whether it is a bug or a design feature. ... ie. in MM4, the separate sort memories in each 2nd-level node could get messy ... eg. you could change the sort seq of the Details view of album node, from album to track, and it would remember that ... this is a good thing, ie. I don't want to have to use the Media Tree, all the time, to change my sort sequence, and I do want to be able define multi-tag sort sequences ... but each 2nd-level node having its own user-set sort seq could get fairly messy ... and maybe a node-global setting is better?
Maybe MM5 2nd-level nodes only relate to the Grid|Art views, and the List and Album&tracks views are not really part of the 2nd-level node. These views are global to the top level node ... In this case the breadcrumbs in the tool bar are a bit confusing ... ie. you were in Music>Album .. then when you switch to List view, and it is really like you were at Music>AllTracks, but the bread crumbs don't change.
If it is a "design feature", it has some problems. In MM4 the 2nd-level nodes had at least two purposes; they each had their own sub-nodes (ie. you could open Music>Artist to see a Media Tree sub-node for each artist), and, as you say, each 2-level node kept memory of its own row display sequence
In MM5 (vanilla), 2nd-level nodes have no sub-nodes, and no sort memory of their own either. ... so no purpose, that I can see, other than they each have a tailored grid|art view, which provides a kind of "home" view with summarisation and display settings that are appropriate to the 2nd-level node's index, as well as tailoring contextual search behaviour for that "home screen (eg, when I typed "moon" into the Album mode in my earlier example, I just filtered using album level tags).
If that is the only remaining purpose for MM5 2nd-level nodes, then this should not happen:
- open a Album 2nd-level node
- and switch to its List view, and sort the display by track
- then later I switch to another 2nd level node, eg Artist ... and browse just using the artist "home" screen
- and then later I click on the Album 2nd level node ... and I get switched to a track list, sorted by track (??)... so in what sense is this Album related?
ie. when I switched backed to Album 2nd-level node,
I should also have been switched back to Grid view.
As you can probably deduce, I haven't yet decided whether I like this new MM5 feature|bug.
[quote=dmcritchie post_id=459045 time=1559780849 user_id=70286]
So the column sort choice seems to be global for the two other views. Seems like a bug, no?
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Well, it is not quite "global", because each top level node has its row sort own setting. But there does seem to be just a single row sort setting for each top level node, when using List or Album&Tracks view modes. ... which is different to MM4, I agree.
I'm not sure whether it is a bug or a design feature. ... ie. in MM4, the separate sort memories in each 2nd-level node could get messy ... eg. you could change the sort seq of the Details view of album node, from album to track, and it would remember that ... this is a good thing, ie. I don't want to have to use the Media Tree, all the time, to change my sort sequence, and I do want to be able define multi-tag sort sequences ... but each 2nd-level node having its own user-set sort seq could get fairly messy ... and maybe a node-global setting is better?
Maybe MM5 2nd-level nodes only relate to the Grid|Art views, and the List and Album&tracks views are not really part of the 2nd-level node. These views are global to the top level node ... In this case the breadcrumbs in the tool bar are a bit confusing ... ie. you were in Music>Album .. then when you switch to List view, and it is really like you were at Music>AllTracks, but the bread crumbs don't change.
If it is a "design feature", it has some problems. In MM4 the 2nd-level nodes had at least two purposes; they each had their own sub-nodes (ie. you could open Music>Artist to see a Media Tree sub-node for each artist), and, as you say, each 2-level node kept memory of its own row display sequence
In MM5 (vanilla), 2nd-level nodes have no sub-nodes, and no sort memory of their own either. ... so no purpose, that I can see, other than they each have a tailored grid|art view, which provides a kind of "home" view with summarisation and display settings that are appropriate to the 2nd-level node's index, as well as tailoring contextual search behaviour for that "home screen (eg, when I typed "moon" into the Album mode in my earlier example, I just filtered using album level tags).
If that is the only remaining purpose for MM5 2nd-level nodes, then this should not happen:
[list]open a Album 2nd-level node[/list]
[list]and switch to its List view, and sort the display by track[/list]
[list]then later I switch to another 2nd level node, eg Artist ... and browse just using the artist "home" screen[/list]
[list]and then later I click on the Album 2nd level node ... and I get switched to a track list, sorted by track (??)... [i]so in what sense is this Album related?[/i][/list]
ie. when I switched backed to Album 2nd-level node,[i] I should also have been switched back to Grid view[/i].
As you can probably deduce, I haven't yet decided whether I like this new MM5 feature|bug.