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Re: BPM Analyzer

by Peke » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:25 pm

dypsis wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:20 am Is it still a subscription model? It doesn't appear to be on the website. At least, I cannot see where it states it.
Hmmm.... Ask them at https://mixedinkey.com/learn-more/ or on contact@mixedinkey.com

Re: BPM Analyzer

by dypsis » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:20 am

1001Musik wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:55 am As I already wrote, Mixed in Key is out of the question because of the subscription model. I only want to pay once, otherwise I won't. I just want to determine the BPM so that I can create different playlists. I don't ask a DJ who earns his money with music. The hobby should be fun and cost little money. $ 49 a year is too much.
Is it still a subscription model? It doesn't appear to be on the website. At least, I cannot see where it states it.

Re: BPM analyzer

by Peke » Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:45 pm

1001Musik wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:55 am because of the subscription model. I only want to pay once
Sorry, I paid for it long time ago, I have not noticed that they moved to subscription model :(

Re: BPM analyzer

by IanRTaylorUK » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:51 pm

This is what I do - perhaps once every month or two.

Go to the Entire Library Node / Add BPM to the columns and then sort by BPM. Select ALL those at the top with no BPM value.

Create a play list of "$$$Missing BPM" (right click / send to) and export to M3U file.

Open the M3U in Foobar and analyse for BPM and then update the MP3 files.

Add / Rescan files to the Library then check the new BPMs have been added.

Delete the $$$MissingBPM playlist which is conveniently at the top of the list of Playlists (I sync devices using Playlists, so I don't want this hanging around after the BPM update).

Duration is about 30 minutes with say 5 minutes user time. One downside is that my MP3 are all backed up to cloud storage, so updating many files creates a bit of traffic.

It would be great to have an Add-On to further simplify / automate the process of adding BPMs.

Re: BPM analyzer

by 1001Musik » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:55 am

As I already wrote, Mixed in Key is out of the question because of the subscription model. I only want to pay once, otherwise I won't. I just want to determine the BPM so that I can create different playlists. I don't ask a DJ who earns his money with music. The hobby should be fun and cost little money. $ 49 a year is too much.

Re: BPM analyzer

by Peke » Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:17 am

Hi,

I personally use Mixed In Key and it is essential because it also create Initial Key that I use in MM5 for Playlists.

Re: BPM analyzer

by Snofru » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:41 am

I use tuneXplorer but I can't say how reliable it is.

Re: BPM analyzer

by 1001Musik » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:58 am

For a long time I wondered whether an analysis of the BPM was needed. I had my eye on "Mixed in Key" because it should be the most accurate. It also supposedly writes the data correctly into the mp3 files without ruining them. Unfortunately, apparently last week they switched to a subscription model, which is why a one-time purchase is no longer possible. Maybe I just overlooked that it has always been a subscription model :) So it falls out of my favorites list.
Erwin Heinzl has already gained a lot of experience here. I know his contributions.

Which program do you use to reliably determine the BPM value?

Re: BPM analyzer

by Peke » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:43 am

Hi,
They are off by far so they are easily spotted and usually indicate an issue with track itself.

Re: BPM analyzer

by Erwin Hanzl » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:30 am

Hi,
The question arises again: which 5k out of 50k are not correct?
So I am not spared the manual metronome check.

Best regards

Re: BPM analyzer

by Peke » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:41 am

Hi,
It is actually easy when you get the hang of it, when I actively worked as DJ only thing I would need is Blinking Beat led on Mixer for each channel and one for Master. There was no limits I could beat match in 10-15s.

Software algorithm was always bad, even MixedInKey fail on 10% of tracks, but at least gets 90% correct.

Re: BPM analyzer

by Erwin Hanzl » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:03 am

Hallo Pavle,

KEY + Energy + BPM?
Looked at like this, all my analyzers are junk!
Freeware "TempoPerfect" from NCH works like a metronome.

Best regards

Re: BPM analyzer

by Peke » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:47 am

Hi,
I know they want money first, but in my case it was well worth it.

BPM needs to be counted by KEY+Energy+BPM, there is no way that Dance Tracks and Classical Tracks have same BPM. My daughter books showed me much as she is attending primary musical school department of violin and we use metronome on a daily basis.

Re: BPM analyzer

by Erwin Hanzl » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:18 am

THERE IS NO RELIABLE PROGRAM FOR BPM ANALYSIS:
In order to get reference values, I have FOOBAR and ABYSSMEDIA analyzed,
however, I MANUALLY determine the BPM value using NCH-Tempoperfect.
Since two unreliable values are enough for me, I uninstalled PISTONSOFT.
I also tested MIXMEISTER, but it ruined the "classification" tags for me.
The software "Harmonic Mixing" mentioned by Pavle: they want to see money first.

ES GIBT KEIN ZUVERLÄSSIGES PROGRAMM ZUR BPM-ANALYSE:
Um Richtwerte zu erhalten, lasse ich zwar mittels FOOBAR und ABYSSMEDIA analysieren,
jedoch bestimme ich MANUELL den BPM-Wert mittels NCH-Tempoperfect.
Da mir schon zwei unzuverlässige Werte reichen, habe ich PISTONSOFT wieder deinstalliert.
MIXMEISTER habe ich auch getestet, jedoch ruiniert mir dieser die "Klassifikations"-Tags.
Die von Pavle erwähnte Software "Harmonic Mixing": die wollen zuerst Geld sehen.


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Re: BPM analyzer

by AlanH » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:28 pm

Has anyone used Pistonsoft BPM detector, it’s free

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