monkeyfan1970 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:54 pm
Call me old school! Came from Musicmatch in the 1990s and Musicmatch when died I switch to Media Monkey! When you have 40K tracks in your library, I prefer the Media Tree View. It is uber simple. No artworks and endless scroll. I always prefer to sort by Artist as opposed to Album. I an quick jump to Artist faster. All Artist and their associated track are neatly "GROUPED".
Yes. Not everyone agrees. How is this superior to none Tree View? I tried and it does not work. There is no grouping. You can't beat Media Tree its sub-nodes.
I have a big library too, not much bigger than yours. I think that MM5 works well, once you get to grips with it.
Here's a couple of examples.
You say that you sort by Artist ...
here I am in the AlbumArtist node, so things are sorted, and grouped, by albumartist. ... I see 75 artists on my screen ... in MM4, in the vertical Media Tree, I could see just 50 artists without scrolling. ... In MM5, usually these boxes would be populated with pictures of all the Artists. I have this turned off because I regularly blitz my MM5 environment during this beta test stage, and all the downloads are a waste, because they are not being persisted.
MM5 contextual filter is always listening. ... I type the letters
roll ...
it filters to any albumartist with a word starting with "roll"
.... Or you can toggle a setting, to make MM5 to "scroll to", like MM4 Media Tree did, rather than "filter by"
You wanted to see things Grouped ... click in The Rolling Stones in the above panel, and this navigates to a
nice inlaid panel, where I can see my 26 albums by the Rolling Stones
There is no endless scroll ... I typed 'roll", and clicked once, and I am here already ... not much difference to MM4 ... but more powerful; ie. I also found Sonny Rollins, without having to remember his first name, and I also found a Thelonious Monk album which has AlbumArtist tag set to "Thelonious Monk & Sonny Rollins"
I can continue from here; click on one of the Rolling Stones albums, and this opens album
to show the tracks
Or if I was in the Album node, instead of the AlbumArtist node ... everything would have sorted and grouped by album
I type roll again here,
this time I am filtered to:
- all albums by the Rolling Stones
- and all albums by Sonny Rollins
- and the album Rock and Roll Animal by Lou Reed
- and the album Let It Roll by George Harrison
This is a small example ... there is a lot of power and flexibility there ... it is worth trying to get to gripes with it ... no documentation or tutorials unfortunately
The concern that I have, with forced population of the all the nodes in the Media Tree (MM4 style), is a hit on performance, just to populate a whole lot of nested sub-nodes, that I will never open.
As you reported in another thread MM5 appears to be sluggish in comparison with MM4 ... hopefully this is due to all the debug code that MM5 will be dragging around at the moment.
I am happy that the nodes can be populated ... just as long as I can turn it off.
I have done quite a lot of playing with MM5 ... I think that it is really good ... am now disappointed and frustrated whenever I go back to my production db in MM4.
dypsis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:33 pm
I guess that is why Magic Nodes is so popular in MM4.
I don't know how popular Magic Nodes is ... I expect that you know that all public utterances indicate that Magic Nodes is not going to be ported to MM5.
Either they didn't know that, or they didn't care ... because they don't appear to have baked much of its superb flexibility into MM5.
I have Magic Nodes. I use it, but not very extensively.
I am sorry to lose it, but in truth, the gains in MM5 give me more than I lost.