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Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by Lowlander » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:47 pm

You need to set the trashcan to hidden or add your media files to a separate folder that you select to scan (so it doesn't include the trashcan in its selection).

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by slemay » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:01 pm

Sorry to bring back an old thread - but it seems to be a problem I'm having today with the latest version. I wrongfully assumed the same thing - select M:\Music - and then uncheck a folder I don't want to be scanned and it would skip that folder on auto-scans - not the case... it does scan it.

The problem in my case, is that the NAS I use creates a folder called "trashbox" and anytime MediaMonkey modifies a file, it actually creates a copy and then deletes it (I'm fine with this EXCEPT...) - now that duplicate file that gets moved to the trashbox now gets scanned by MediaMonkey and re-added to the library. I see where I can exclude this folder from being media managed (so it won't try and re-add it to the folder structure) - but it still adds the tags back into my MediaMonkey database.

Is there not some sort of registry edit, or config file, or something we can edit to tell it to exclude this folder??? Can the developers not add this feature? It appears to be there in the GUI (as many others in this thread have pointed out - but it doesn't function that way). Thanks.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by dtsig » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:20 am

Brains59 wrote:Sorry if this has already been answered but there is a lot of related information on this thread, but I think my experience here might help some peoples understanding here.

I have been getting confused with how you select what gets scanned. I previously thought that you need to tick "scan on start up", and then go ahead ticking the folders you actually want to scan on start up.

After experimenting I have found that you actually need to select (not tick) a folder you want to scan at start up 1st, then tick scan at start up, then you see the folder icon change to a sort of curly arrow. Monitoring on start up then starts working for that folder.

I can't see any purpose to the tick boxes next to the folders. At least for me they don't seem to do anything. Maybe I am missing a point somewhere???
I fully agree with the need for that page to be restructured .. with better layout for defining the function of checkboxes or continuous or ... there appears to have been a concerted effort to put all things into one little page .. not user friendly. I hope that the new version will have included a lot of the layout changes suggested here and else where for newbies

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by nohitter151 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:39 am

Brains59 wrote: I can't see any purpose to the tick boxes next to the folders. At least for me they don't seem to do anything. Maybe I am missing a point somewhere???
The boxes next to the folders are for a manual scan.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by Brains59 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:26 am

Sorry if this has already been answered but there is a lot of related information on this thread, but I think my experience here might help some peoples understanding here.

I have been getting confused with how you select what gets scanned. I previously thought that you need to tick "scan on start up", and then go ahead ticking the folders you actually want to scan on start up.

After experimenting I have found that you actually need to select (not tick) a folder you want to scan at start up 1st, then tick scan at start up, then you see the folder icon change to a sort of curly arrow. Monitoring on start up then starts working for that folder.

I can't see any purpose to the tick boxes next to the folders. At least for me they don't seem to do anything. Maybe I am missing a point somewhere???

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by nohitter151 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:43 am

wipfler wrote:And, I have to add, I does not just scan, but it adds all the info to the library, as if it was new, but it already did it.. so why does this slooooow process have to happen every time I open MM?... again.. I have the options set correctly .. it should not do this. I've set the option to scan continuously, but not at start up.
You have set some folders to scan at startup. Look at the icons next to the folder names. If it is not a picture of a little folder, then it means it's set to scan at startup.

You need to click on those folders and uncheck "Scan at startup"

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by Lowlander » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:03 am

It all depends on your settings. If you enabled Folder Monitoring's Startup Scan it will rescan each startup (set under File > Add/Rescan Files). Additional settings under Tools > Options > Library control re-reading of tags for existing files.

Note that the Now Playing reads from files (as it can contain non-Library files) and the My Computer node does the same for the same reason. Limit your Now Playing for faster start and use a Library node instead of My Computer.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by wipfler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:23 am

And, I have to add, I does not just scan, but it adds all the info to the library, as if it was new, but it already did it.. so why does this slooooow process have to happen every time I open MM?... again.. I have the options set correctly .. it should not do this. I've set the option to scan continuously, but not at start up.

why does MM re-scan on every open of MM?

by wipfler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:16 am

Thing is, I Import 90,000 files, this takes forever.. I close MM.. open it again, it it re-does the whole process.. ?? What gives ? is it not remembering what it already did.. this is very annoying. I have all the settings correct in the options.. but it still does it.. every time I open MM, it acts like it forgets everything it imported, can't it skip what is already imported, and just add new files?

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by rovingcowboy » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:50 am

Lowlander wrote:I can't reproduce. If I deselect a single child from a parent the parent no longer is showing selected (checkmark) instead it is showing a square indicating a partial selection.
this is also correct in how it works in mm 3.
and in mm 3 all unchecked folders are not scanned.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by dtsig » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:54 pm

nohitter151 wrote:
nanite2000 wrote:
If the user interface allows the user to do things the program doesn't support, then maybe it's time to either re-evaluate the user interface, or add support for the functionality that the user interface appears to support.
That isn't the case. You apparently just don't understand the UI. I'll agree that it isn't exactly intuitive, but it works as intended.
Oh i don't doubt that it " .. works as intended ... " but the telling bit is " ... it isn't exactly intuitive ... ". Isn't making it intuitive where it should be heading.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by nohitter151 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:14 pm

nanite2000 wrote:
If the user interface allows the user to do things the program doesn't support, then maybe it's time to either re-evaluate the user interface, or add support for the functionality that the user interface appears to support.
That isn't the case. You apparently just don't understand the UI. I'll agree that it isn't exactly intuitive, but it works as intended.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by dtsig » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:51 pm

I agree about the user interface. In this case there are 3 very different things that can happen ... scan now any folders checked, set folders for autoscan and both scan now and set folders for autoscan.

The "Scan Now" section should have its own OK button. It just doesn't make real design sense as it is

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by nanite2000 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:53 am

nohitter151 wrote:
nanite2000 wrote:So, it *is* a bug then?
No. For the example you posted earlier, as I said, you shouldn't scan "Music" folder at startup. Instead, select each folder individually that you want scanned at startup.

I think you are all confused about the meaning of the check marks. Check marks only indicate what is scanned during a manual scan, eg. when you press the "OK" button.
The user interface is confusing because there is no explanation of how it's supposed to work, so we can only go by what we see. And what we see is deselected folders being scanned despite appearing to be excluded from the list of monitored folders.

If the user interface allows the user to do things the program doesn't support, then maybe it's time to either re-evaluate the user interface, or add support for the functionality that the user interface appears to support.

Re: Scan at Startup doesn't exclude folders

by nohitter151 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:06 pm

nanite2000 wrote:
nohitter151 wrote:The 'correct' or workaround for this is to "Monitor" or "scan at startup" each subfolder individually, rather than the parent.
So, it *is* a bug then?
No. For the example you posted earlier, as I said, you shouldn't scan "Music" folder at startup. Instead, select each folder individually that you want scanned at startup.

I think you are all confused about the meaning of the check marks. Check marks only indicate what is scanned during a manual scan, eg. when you press the "OK" button.

The icons are what indicate what is to be scanned at startup or monitored. In the case of parent folders, for these two scanning options (indicated by the blue icons), subfolders are also always included.

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