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by rovingcowboy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:21 am

The EFF is sueing them big time.

here is the last post in an thread in the lockergnome forum about it.

http://help.lockergnome.com/index.php?s ... ntry309224 :o

by psyXonova » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:30 am

Looks like Sony is in bad troubles.... they should be more carefull next time.

Personally, i do believe that everyone that will be infected by a virus using the Sony exploit should sue Sony down to the last penny....

BTW, Microsoft Antispyware as long as many other AV software report the Sony rootkit as a threat and thus they remove it from system

by rovingcowboy » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:43 pm

MarineBrat wrote:
rovingcowboy wrote:incase you are wondering about me by now? i come from the town/ city of pittsburgh Pa. guess what pro sports teams are called there. :D
Hey Roving, I grew up in Brookline, just a little south of The Burgh! What part are you from?
really am from Latrobe about an hour or so to the east of Pitt on us 30.

but only some one from the pitt area would know of it so i say Pitt,
well if they are a huge golf fan then they would know it as the home of Arnold Palmer. but really arnold is from ligoneer. or he just visited there lots as he grew up as a kid in the same school with my mom and ate snacks at my grandma's house.

also mr. rogers was born in latrobe. same hospital i was born at but way before me.

i just use Pitt. to show that some times i can wear a black hat too. :D

but blame it on the area since all the team names mean the same thing.

i am in texas now though.

by trixmoto » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:46 pm

Hopefully we'll see that. For once Microsoft, do the right thing, and do it quickly!

by psyXonova » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:17 am

It was only a matter of time.....
Next thing we will see is Microsoft patching all windows systems against Sony Rootkit..... :o

by Lowlander » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:57 pm

And the first virusses using the sony rootkit have been discovered too.

by MarineBrat » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:41 pm

rovingcowboy wrote:incase you are wondering about me by now? i come from the town/ city of pittsburgh Pa. guess what pro sports teams are called there. :D
Hey Roving, I grew up in Brookline, just a little south of The Burgh! What part are you from?

Disable Autoplay

by drichm » Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:04 am

For those who are interested

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/down ... rtoys.mspx

contains an application called 'TweakUI' which has many useful options, one being the ability to disable autoplay on any drive, including CDs.

When TweakUI is installed go to the section 'My Computer' -> AutoPlay -> Drives

If, after doing this, you want to run auto play, press the right-mouse button on the drive in File Explorer and choose the 'Auto Play' option.

Dave

P.S. The link above is for Windows XP, there are versions for other Windows versions, but I do not know if they are still available online. Try searching Microsofts site.

by Plazma » Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:09 pm

I heard about this today on the radio. What a dumb move on Sony's part - and whoever else has done this. I thought they were trying to get people to buy CDs. This really makes me think twice about even putting a cd in my drive.

Maybe I'll just rip CDs from a player using an RCA cable :o

by trixmoto » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:40 pm

I always have my autoplay set on "prompt" so that I can easily stop it before it does anything i don't want it to.

by rovingcowboy » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:35 pm

yep i could have but i don't

i did not play the cdrom before i explored it. i am an untrusting type of guy in some things. 8)

but i don't think every one would have explored it first. which is why a say that just to get others to think before they click on play. or have it auto start? :wink:

by psyXonova » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:14 am

Well cowboy that is the point you know....
this software installs by it self without a notice!!!!
Most propably, since you bought such an Audio CD you also have this rootkit, but sony never asked you to install it!!!!!

by rovingcowboy » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:48 am

so how many of you are dumb enough to install a player from a music cdrom when it is to be able to just play by inserting in your cdrom player?

as i have said in other messages the way around this crap is to just rip to wav format

edit in wav editor save as a new wav file under new name.

convert to your format you want.

then renam to the orginal name.

just dont use mp3 format as that is more then likely the one their code will look for thus making it reclaim your song again.

you bought the cdrom you have a legal right to make a backup copy of it with out the hacker stuff being put on your system. or with out it going away.

this does explain why some songs got online have just disapeard from the computer though, even though it was paid for.

recently i got a cdrom of a christmas album that was done in wma's and would not play in wmp i checked the cdrom by exploreing in windows.

found it had its own setup. looked in its folders did not know what in the h..ll it needed with its own drivers. and i did not want its speical player so i copied the wma files to the hard drive. tried to play them. they would not play.

i had to rip them with out playing them, to a wav file then i was able to do as i said with the wav editor.

i now have my legal copy of the cdrom and i tossed the cdrom in the pile on the table which will not be played ever since i use my files on the computer.

i keep the cdroms just to be in compliance with the drm laws as of having to own the factory cdrom to have a copy of it on your computer, which is just making every one have piles of cdroms as room dividers.

but that is the only way i know around this crap they are doing.

they can't block it from ever being played. so you will always beable to get around it. 8) incase you are wondering about me by now? i come from the town/ city of pittsburgh Pa. guess what pro sports teams are called there. :D

by psyXonova » Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:06 am

What is worst off all is that companies have started using classic "hacker" technics to force DRM even against simple users. As a matter of fact, if i was a hacker i would love to see this specific protection method available for every Audio CD out there since it opens the door for the compromisation of the user's system. I mean, all i have to do is find a way to add a file named $sys$anyfilenamehere into the user's system. After that, Sony does all the job for me hiding this file from all Antivirus, AntiSpyware etc software and allowing me to run every type of malicius code i want to, including patching the system call table!!!!!!!!
I mean.... those people are unbelievable!!!!

by Steegy » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:52 am

The only thing I want is pure music.
When they add to much "necessary extras" or even fraudulent software, I'm tempted to get my music from places where they *are* clean.
So for me, these copy-protection measures are totally counterproductive.

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