Anybody else hate the new UI?

by **Guest** » Mon May 27, 2013 11:37 pm

nohitter151 wrote:You know, you don't have to edit the skin to do this. You can change what is shown in the player right in the MM options. I believe it's at Options > Playback rules

I can't believe I missed that the first time around. And here I thought I had scoured the options beforehand!

And the example is Windir, no less. These MM folks have some good taste!

Many thanks!

by **nohitter151** » Fri May 24, 2013 3:02 pm

Viscera wrote:Apologies for the bump, but this seems like the appropriate topic.

I also have minor complaints about the MM4 Glided skin. Everything is fine except for the player. In MM3, there were specific sections for song title, album, and artist. I really liked this, and in the new player, we're stuck with simply "Artist - Song". I'd like to see a bit more information in the player.

Opening Glided.msz and then player.ini, I looked for the appropriate settings to change, but came up short.

Under the [SongTitle] section, I found "TextMask=File: %E / %Bkbps PL: %PC of %PT", and this appears to govern the file type, bitrate, etc. in Pman's screenshot a few posts above.

I also found [TimeDisplay] which does as you'd expect.

Couldn't find anything that controlled the bolded orange text that I want to change. Ideally, I'd like the same setup as MM3 Glided, but I'll settle for something like "Artist - Song (Year) from Album". Any ideas on how to change this?

The [Summary] section seems to be the way to go and it is of type Text, but I don't see any options for changing the text. Any ideas? Thanks!

You know, you don't have to edit the skin to do this. You can change what is shown in the player right in the MM options. I believe it's at Options > Playback rules

by **Viscera** » Fri May 24, 2013 11:16 am

Apologies for the bump, but this seems like the appropriate topic.

I also have minor complaints about the MM4 Glided skin. Everything is fine except for the player. In MM3, there were specific sections for song title, album, and artist. I really liked this, and in the new player, we're stuck with simply "Artist - Song". I'd like to see a bit more information in the player.

Opening Glided.msz and then player.ini, I looked for the appropriate settings to change, but came up short.

Under the [SongTitle] section, I found "TextMask=File: %E / %Bkbps PL: %PC of %PT", and this appears to govern the file type, bitrate, etc. in Pman's screenshot a few posts above.

I also found [TimeDisplay] which does as you'd expect.

Couldn't find anything that controlled the bolded orange text that I want to change. Ideally, I'd like the same setup as MM3 Glided, but I'll settle for something like "Artist - Song (Year) from Album". Any ideas on how to change this?

The [Summary] section seems to be the way to go and it is of type Text, but I don't see any options for changing the text. Any ideas? Thanks!

by **Lowlander** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:02 pm

View > Art & Details. Most panels can be closed from the View menu.

As to placement of things on the Player it is up to the skinner. If you don't like the choice the skinner made, change skins or create your own skin. Vitreous has mute and volume control next to each other.

by **quickskier47** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:53 pm

I think I'm specifically surprised by the fact that the volume control was moved way over to the left, but the mute button is still on the right (at least in the classic Glided theme). Why separate them like that? That's my favorite theme, and now the everything has been shifted around. In addition, I don't like the fact that I can't close certain windows, like the Album/Info panels underneath Now Playing on the right-hand side. Eh...

by **Mbane** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:38 am

After criticising MM4 yesterday, I spent last night customizing it and I can say it now looks just as MM3 but with more features. Too bad it didn't look as good out of the box but I'm liking it now.

by **rovingcowboy** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:20 am

i'm still stuck at not able to get my error on the mini player fixed but i do like the fact they now put the balance slider on the main program even though it is on the EQ panel. i still will keep it in my player skin as i'm use to it there, but another location option is always good.

i don't get the distaste of the new ui everyone seems to be or most everyone seems to say there is a lot of change.
it allows the use of all the old skins. so simple go in to the skins folder of mm 3 and copy the files there.
so you can put the old msz files in the new folder to use if you want those skins.
or download other user made skins.

the narrow player is made by the skinner just like always its not wanted to be narrow then get a bigger player skin.

only thing going on with just moving mm 3 to mm 4 skins is there are now in mm 4 more no album art images needed
and a new player for the video files is there if the skinner wants to make one. mm 4 looks like mm 3 with those skins.
there are more options to customize the tool bars with in mm 4

but keep in mind the gui is the skin.
the options are the program.
not liking the gui tells everyone you don't like the skin of the program, so you get told to switch to another one.
but not liking the options makes you get response's of what part of the program do you not like.

by **Lowlander** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:09 am

You're given the option to de-associate on first run and any time after under Tools > Options > OS Integration and you can rearrange the windows any way you want just like in MediaMonkey 3. Other than using a different default skin and using Collections instead of Filters MediaMonkey 4 is pretty much the same as MediaMonkey 3 when it comes to the UI. Most things can be customized just the same way as you were able to in MediaMonkey 3.

by **MosleyG** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:10 pm

So here I was using MediaMonkey since early Version 3 and I thouught this has to be the best player out there with some real consideration in all the ways it does things. IN particular when putting it on a new computer, the nice choices of what is to be associated and also the nice consistency in the position of all its various functions like now playing, album art. that kind of thing. Also when moving up to a new revision like 3.2x to 3.2y, it kept all the nice custmisations I had made.

Then I see a new version! Oh boy, verson 4.0 is out! So I grab it and install it.

Oh man this is bad. it took over all my file associations just like that damn quicktime did, and where the heck did all the things I was so used to in version 3 go?

I don't know if I hate version 4 but hoo boy does it suck balls or what. Thankfully the guys who make MediaMonkey left the previosu version up so I could download it and put it back on.

Anyway, not to offend anyone becuase in reading the forums I see some of you guys get really upset when people critique this software but the way I see it, some new programmers implanted their kinda controlling personalities into the version 4. I hope something liek a version 4.1 or higher gets rid of all the stuff that is so offensive to me and to many many others that I see posting in all these forums.

Hope allthe good people here are doing ok.
Mikhail 'Mosley' Godrich

by **klinsten** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:56 am

you're all plain weird

i don't care what a media player looks like, i press the play button and then minimize it
as long as it does what it has to do, looks don't matter

but then again, opinions differ

by **Pman** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:12 pm

lordphoenix wrote:A few things I don't like about the new-old skin:

1. The top bar of the media player is blue, which does not blend in with the rest of the program.
2. I can't seem to get the album art over on the left like before
3. I really liked the old play bar at the bottom. The new one is very narrow and I just don't like it as much.
4. I really don't get the whole tabs thing, but maybe that's just me..
5. I think the search bar is harder to get to since it's in the very corner (and can't move over, apparently). I also find it really hard to hit the microscopic down arrow next to the search box, since it's at the every edge of the screen.

There's probably more stuff that's bugging me but that's off the top of my head. I just really liked the old skin. And you're right, it's not a terrible skin -- some people probably love the changes. I don't.

1. Don't see it, point this out on another screenshot.
2. On the top left corner area, on the menu buttons click View->Art&Details and you'll see the Artwork.
3. Slight redesign on the player to make it ergonomically better but there's always a skinner out here who's willing to change it back for you.
4. I use tabs quite often. Easy example is when im wanting one day just for sorting my unsorted music and another tab for music that im listening to at the moment in a playlist of some kind.
5. Search bar is exactly the same and is moveable as before, my screenshot below is a 2 minute readjustment to make my MM4 look like your MM3 screenshot (all icons near enough identical in similar places to the way you had yours)....hardly any difference if you ask me:

by **nohitter151** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:01 pm

1. Can be disabled: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... ni#p318721
2. Just need to right-click > Show title bar in the art window
3. I guess you mean seek bar? There's your first (only) legitimate critique
4. Then disable them (options > appearance > uncheck always show the tab bar)
5. Search bar can be moved same as in MM3. Down arrow next to search bar is exactly the same size as in mm3

by **lordphoenix** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:31 pm

A few things I don't like about the new-old skin:

1. The top bar of the media player is blue, which does not blend in with the rest of the program.
2. I can't seem to get the album art over on the left like before
3. I really liked the old play bar at the bottom. The new one is very narrow and I just don't like it as much.
4. I really don't get the whole tabs thing, but maybe that's just me..
5. I think the search bar is harder to get to since it's in the very corner (and can't move over, apparently). I also find it really hard to hit the microscopic down arrow next to the search box, since it's at the every edge of the screen.

There's probably more stuff that's bugging me but that's off the top of my head. I just really liked the old skin. And you're right, it's not a terrible skin -- some people probably love the changes. I don't.

by **nohitter151** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:50 pm

So what bothers you? The tabs? The Aero border? The slightly modified player?

Tabs can be disabled, the aero border can be disabled, and I hardly think the player is different enough to warrant "hate".

by **lordphoenix** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:39 pm

You don't see a difference?

I'm not talking about the playlist, but the overall appearance of the skin. It looks significantly different.

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